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Re: Porsche "Wet Mode" to Reduce Hydroplaning [Re: SubLGT] #4968779 01/03/19 02:05 PM
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Another thought... this could be another sensor introduced in anticipation of autonomous vehicles. It would field test new technology in real world situations, like the industry is doing with radar braking, self steering, and lane change technology. Porsche simply put a "we care about you" spin on this technology so they can smugly tout how they care about your safety.

Re: Porsche "Wet Mode" to Reduce Hydroplaning [Re: d00df00d] #4968780 01/03/19 02:07 PM
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Originally Posted by d00df00d
Guys.

You all know this is a selectable mode, right?

Like... It's not a thing that's always on and impossible to defeat. It's a light that comes on sometimes, does literally nothing else unless you press the button, and then stops doing things the moment you press the button again.

I agree it shouldn't be necessary but you guys are whining like it's a horseman of the automotive apocalypse. Calm down.


lol..ya but I suspect default mode is "active" just like traction control.


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Re: Porsche "Wet Mode" to Reduce Hydroplaning [Re: Kestas] #4968784 01/03/19 02:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Kestas
Another thought... this could be another sensor introduced in anticipation of autonomous vehicles. It would field test new technology in real world situations, like the industry is doing with radar braking, self steering, and lane change technology. Porsche simply put a "we care about you" spin on this technology so they can smugly tout how they care about your safety.


That's been one of the biggest questions so far. How well an autonomous motor vehicle know how to react to the weather and other driving conditions?


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Re: Porsche "Wet Mode" to Reduce Hydroplaning [Re: d00df00d] #4968802 01/03/19 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted by d00df00d
Guys.

You all know this is a selectable mode, right?

Like... It's not a thing that's always on and impossible to defeat. It's a light that comes on sometimes, does literally nothing else unless you press the button, and then stops doing things the moment you press the button again.

I agree it shouldn't be necessary but you guys are whining like it's a horseman of the automotive apocalypse. Calm down.


Exactly. Everyone here acting like the best drivers in the world, they don't need no stinkin safety nannies! Sure, not on your chrysler lebaron woody with 87hp LOL

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If activated, the vehicle starts to prepare itself for potential hydroplaning. Engine torque buildup is reduced, its distribution biased to the smaller front wheels for greater stability, and aero flaps open to create greater downforce. Actuating systems for safety features like Porsche stability management (PSM) and Porsche traction management (PTM) are lowered.


This is just cool tech. Is it something else to break? Yea probably. But its also on $100k plus cars not Kia's.


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Re: Porsche "Wet Mode" to Reduce Hydroplaning [Re: Kestas] #4968805 01/03/19 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Kestas
Another thought... this could be another sensor introduced in anticipation of autonomous vehicles. It would field test new technology in real world situations, like the industry is doing with radar braking, self steering, and lane change technology. Porsche simply put a "we care about you" spin on this technology so they can smugly tout how they care about your safety.

Good point. One of the scenarios I have questioned regarding autonomous vehicles is how they would react to black ice or similar slippery traction among others.


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Re: Porsche "Wet Mode" to Reduce Hydroplaning [Re: BMWTurboDzl] #4968860 01/03/19 03:12 PM
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Originally Posted by BMWTurboDzl
This tells me that Porsche is seeing a shift in the type of buyer for the 911. It's a buyer who's more interested in the panache of owning a 911 rather than actual driving of one.

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I'm sure they're seeing the shift, so why bother with this wet mode, when the "new Porsche owner" is just hogging the left lane...


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Re: Porsche "Wet Mode" to Reduce Hydroplaning [Re: SubLGT] #4968945 01/03/19 04:50 PM
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https://www.autonews.com/blogs/porsche-hopes-new-wet-mode-will-solve-911s-hydroplaning-problem
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..."People drive too fast in the rain and are not aware of how close they are to the aquaplaning threshold," Morbitzer said, adding this was especially true for 911 customers......The best solution was to simply reduce speed and switch to the slow lane, but Porsche 911 drivers are not accustomed to this ...
...All new 911s will now come standard with a new safety system. Miniature microphone sensors analyze indirectly the intensity of the water on the road splashed up into the front wheel arches. Depending on the current speed, the vehicle can recommend the driver to activate the so-called "wet mode."
If activated, the vehicle starts to prepare itself for potential hydroplaning. Engine torque buildup is reduced, its distribution biased to the smaller front wheels for greater stability, and aero flaps open to create greater downforce. Actuating systems for safety features like Porsche stability management (PSM) and Porsche traction management (PTM) are lowered...


Mine has a system that can be transferred from car to car it's called "My Right Foot" it works wonderfully especially when connected to the optional "Common Sense" application, that makes it foolproof !

Re: Porsche "Wet Mode" to Reduce Hydroplaning [Re: BMWTurboDzl] #4968968 01/03/19 05:16 PM
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Originally Posted by BMWTurboDzl
This tells me that Porsche is seeing a shift in the type of buyer for the 911. It's a buyer who's more interested in the panache of owning a 911 rather than actual driving of one.

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No need to hide on that comment...idiots with money, rather than enthusiasts, are getting behind the wheel for the image alone and don't know how to drive a 1972 Datsun B210, much less a Porsche.

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Re: Porsche "Wet Mode" to Reduce Hydroplaning [Re: SubLGT] #4968978 01/03/19 05:27 PM
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Re: Porsche "Wet Mode" to Reduce Hydroplaning [Re: SubLGT] #4969176 01/03/19 08:57 PM
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It's just a more advanced version of traction control. Hydroplaning does not announce itself clearly in advance to the driver and can occur already at 35 mph. Does nobody here go over 35mph when the road is wet? A Porsche has rather wide tires, probably in a staggered setup, which makes the vehicle especially prone to hydroplaning. Given the technical possibility, why wouldn’t a manufacturer include an implementable safety feature? Most drivers, and just because someone drives a Porsche he can’t be expected to be a professional driver, will be better off with the additional safety feature. As for all the idiot drivers, most of them don’t drive a Porsche but some other hooptie. 90% of drivers can’t even manage to come to a full stop at a stop sign or understand the concept of the right of way.in advance

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Re: Porsche "Wet Mode" to Reduce Hydroplaning [Re: SubLGT] #4969200 01/03/19 09:20 PM
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Hopefully works when wet smile

The auto braking in wife’s 2018 Tiguan shuts off quietly with minor warning light in heavy rain and slushy weather when sensor gets obscured.... the two times this feature might be handy.

Re: Porsche "Wet Mode" to Reduce Hydroplaning [Re: vavavroom] #4969208 01/03/19 09:26 PM
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It's just a more advanced version of traction control. Hydroplaning does not announce itself clearly in advance to the driver and can occur already at 35 mph. Does nobody here go over 35mph when the road is wet? A Porsche has rather wide tires, probably in a staggered setup, which makes the vehicle especially prone to hydroplaning. Given the technical possibility, why wouldn’t a manufacturer include an implementable safety feature? Most drivers, and just because someone drives a Porsche he can’t be expected to be a professional driver, will be better off with the additional safety feature. As for all the idiot drivers, most of them don’t drive a Porsche but some other hooptie. 90% of drivers can’t even manage to come to a full stop at a stop sign or understand the concept of the right of way.in advance

Well said.

My 911 is light, has no weight over the front 225s, and has 295s in the rear.

You bet it likes to hydroplane.


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Re: Porsche "Wet Mode" to Reduce Hydroplaning [Re: BMWTurboDzl] #4969257 01/03/19 10:32 PM
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Originally Posted by d00df00d
Guys.

You all know this is a selectable mode, right?

Like... It's not a thing that's always on and impossible to defeat. It's a light that comes on sometimes, does literally nothing else unless you press the button, and then stops doing things the moment you press the button again.

I agree it shouldn't be necessary but you guys are whining like it's a horseman of the automotive apocalypse. Calm down.


lol..ya but I suspect default mode is "active" just like traction control.

No need for suspicion. The article specifically says it works upon activation by the driver. Zero ambiguity.

If the reality turns out otherwise, there'll be plenty of time to whine then.


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Re: Porsche "Wet Mode" to Reduce Hydroplaning [Re: SubLGT] #4969270 01/03/19 10:56 PM
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Autogefühl has a video up of the new Porsche 911 with a demonstration on a track. Skip to the 32 minute mark to see how the Wet Mode works.


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Re: Porsche "Wet Mode" to Reduce Hydroplaning [Re: SubLGT] #4969532 01/04/19 09:53 AM
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