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Re: New 2019-ford-ranger not bad looking [Re: aquariuscsm] #4962880
12/27/18 07:40 PM
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lack of sales..
i do love a ranger for the simplicity and ease of maintenance..easy to find in a stick, etc..

but thats precisely why people dont want them.


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Re: New 2019-ford-ranger not bad looking [Re: littleant] #4962897
12/27/18 08:05 PM
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Lack of sales, due to a.) losing the meaning of mini-truck and b.) lack of meaningful refreshes.

You had the 4.0L V6 Ford Ranger getting mileage in the mid-teens.

You had the upsized Dakota with a V6 getting mileage in the mid-teens, looking very much like a Ram from a few years back in size.

They both totally lost the concept of an ECONOMICAL small pickup truck.

Meanwhile Toyota just kept selling Tacoma's....


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Re: New 2019-ford-ranger not bad looking [Re: Danno] #4962919
12/27/18 08:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Danno
Originally Posted by simple_gifts
Interesting; This is Ford's "New Beetle"; A reintroduced vehicle with all of the simplicity and desirability of the original design engineered away....

No such thing as simple in today's vehicles.

Yeah. If you want simple, you're gonna have to go used. Today's buyers want all the features and that makes it hideously expensive. $40k!


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Re: New 2019-ford-ranger not bad looking [Re: HangFire] #4962922
12/27/18 08:36 PM
12/27/18 08:36 PM
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Originally Posted by HangFire
Lack of sales, due to a.) losing the meaning of mini-truck and b.) lack of meaningful refreshes.

You had the 4.0L V6 Ford Ranger getting mileage in the mid-teens.

You had the upsized Dakota with a V6 getting mileage in the mid-teens, looking very much like a Ram from a few years back in size.

They both totally lost the concept of an ECONOMICAL small pickup truck.

Meanwhile Toyota just kept selling Tacoma's....


Tacomas also get mileage in the teens.

Re: New 2019-ford-ranger not bad looking [Re: aquariuscsm] #4962924
12/27/18 08:37 PM
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Originally Posted by aquariuscsm
Curious,what ended the mini truck craze?


$ 4 a gallon gas and rebates on full-size trucks making them the same price as the mid-sizers with much less capability.

Re: New 2019-ford-ranger not bad looking [Re: littleant] #4962950
12/27/18 08:59 PM
12/27/18 08:59 PM
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Ranger/B2300 2WD with Duratec was rated @ 29MPG with the 5sp MT; I got 31 on a 1000 mile loop to my parents in Western VA.

I basically haul stuff occasionally with mine but it is practical to be considered a DD if pressed into service.


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2007 Yaris 78K 0w-40 Castrol
2006 B2300;132K;ALM


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Re: New 2019-ford-ranger not bad looking [Re: aquariuscsm] #4962969
12/27/18 09:21 PM
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Originally Posted by aquariuscsm
Curious,what ended the mini truck craze?


For the same or sometimes less dollars , you could get a full size truck.

Re: New 2019-ford-ranger not bad looking [Re: littleant] #4962975
12/27/18 09:28 PM
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The trend is towards crew cabs/double cabs. Many customers that want a pickup also need it to pick up the kids or whatever.


Cannot see signatures any longer so it doesn’t matter.
Re: New 2019-ford-ranger not bad looking [Re: hemitruck] #4962979
12/27/18 09:31 PM
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It is important that they maintain a few MPG in between these and full size … and full sized is mainly an American thing with us often having lower fuel prices and a bit more room to park in many places.
If this is a solid 10 year+ truck … it will see higher fuel prices a couple times or so …

I for one no longer want or need a 4 door full size …don’t enjoy driving them …

Re: New 2019-ford-ranger not bad looking [Re: littleant] #4963125
12/28/18 05:01 AM
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Re: New 2019-ford-ranger not bad looking [Re: littleant] #4963270
12/28/18 09:09 AM
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Re: New 2019-ford-ranger not bad looking [Re: littleant] #4963347
12/28/18 11:15 AM
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I think the Ranger will sell well. Particularly to many who don't "need" a truck in the first place. And, in this regard, it seems as if Ford's marketing guys have anticipated this, because those being delivered initially are mostly XLTs and Lariats with most of the options available. This results in truckloads of $45k+ Rangers -- a far cry from the basic $25k truck with the same running gear.

Re: New 2019-ford-ranger not bad looking [Re: littleant] #4963939
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The turboed 4-cylinder is probably the same basic engine used in the Mustang.

Re: New 2019-ford-ranger not bad looking [Re: littleant] #4963974
12/28/18 11:30 PM
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It's a ute not a truck, and if you don't get the 5 cyl diesel why bother.


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Re: New 2019-ford-ranger not bad looking [Re: littleant] #4964588
12/29/18 05:17 PM
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The Dunning Kruger effect is real.
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