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Re: Amsoil 0W-30, 14,198 MILES, 1993 Civic [Re: harry j] #4954649 12/18/18 04:03 AM
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Artem it's good to hear from you. I kinda miss Florida, lived there in the West Palm Beach area for 33 years.

Cruising speed was between 65 and 70 MPH as traffic allowed. I must of had a bit of a tail wind to help out.

The overall gas mileage for the trip was 42.2 MPG.

Re: Amsoil 0W-30, 14,198 MILES, 1993 Civic [Re: Marco620] #4954651 12/18/18 04:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Marco620
Nope. Try redline si-1 next time maybe or gumout regane.



Good idea Marco620, I will do just that, the redline si-1 will have to wait though.

I am not adding anything this interval to confirm my prior observations of elevated copper.

Re: Amsoil 0W-30, 14,198 MILES, 1993 Civic [Re: harry j] #4955471 12/18/18 09:23 PM
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Impressive, thats alot of miles for any gas engine.

Re: Amsoil 0W-30, 14,198 MILES, 1993 Civic [Re: harry j] #4955888 12/19/18 11:00 AM
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Originally Posted by harry j
The new formula (that is said to exceed GM's new Dexos 1, gen 2 specs) cleans better than the old formula. That is why the lead increased in my Civic
and then is gradually going down as the residual is being removed. The motor now with 529,000 miles, runs so quietly that you can barely hear it.
The gas mileage jumped up 3 or so MPG. On a recent trip to Clinton, MD The Civic averaged 44.7 MPG on the highway. That was 407 miles and
only 9.1 gallons of regular.



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Re: Amsoil 0W-30, 14,198 MILES, 1993 Civic [Re: harry j] #4955896 12/19/18 11:04 AM
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Originally Posted by harry j
The new formula (that is said to exceed GM's new Dexos 1, gen 2 specs) cleans better than the old formula.

In this case though, "exceeding" the spec means it violates a limit, right? Not "exceeding" it by being better.


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Re: Amsoil 0W-30, 14,198 MILES, 1993 Civic [Re: kschachn] #4956520 12/20/18 12:20 AM
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Maybe just maybe it actually exceeds it by lower wear that could be shown by say cam wear limits?? Or timing chain wear limits being lower than a Dexos approved oil??



Or it could also be it exceeds the SA limits set by Dexos... Which is true.


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Re: Amsoil 0W-30, 14,198 MILES, 1993 Civic [Re: harry j] #4958348 12/21/18 10:40 PM
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Originally Posted by kschachn
Originally Posted by harry j
The new formula (that is said to exceed GM's new Dexos 1, gen 2 specs) cleans better than the old formula.



In this case though, "exceeding" the spec means it violates a limit, right? Not "exceeding" it by being better.



I see what your getting at kschachn, the new formulation of the Amsoil 0W-30 Signature series oil betters (is superior to)

the new specifications from GM (Dexos 1, Generation 2). Please do some research, and get back to me.

Re: Amsoil 0W-30, 14,198 MILES, 1993 Civic [Re: harry j] #4958442 12/22/18 03:10 AM
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I think he's pointing out that Amsoil themselves show in their literature that the grades that would normally seek dexos1 approval cannot do so because they exceed SA limits.


Plain, simple Garak.

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Re: Amsoil 0W-30, 14,198 MILES, 1993 Civic [Re: harry j] #4958466 12/22/18 05:06 AM
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Ah yes Garak, this oil will never be approved for Dexos1, gen2 due to higher than specified Sulfated Ash level. Even if it did, the expense of certification is steep.

I'd like to close this can of worms now lol

Re: Amsoil 0W-30, 14,198 MILES, 1993 Civic [Re: harry j] #4958471 12/22/18 05:25 AM
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New diferent view of engine bay

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Re: Amsoil 0W-30, 14,198 MILES, 1993 Civic [Re: Gasbuggy] #4958473 12/22/18 05:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Gasbuggy
I thought Honda's usually push combustion into the coolant when the HG goes.



edit: just read the other thread. disregard my comment. Maybe you have a slightly porous head casting and a bit of coolant seeps though somewhere.





I hope you're right about the porous head Gasbuggy. Anyway, I just added a Bars anti-leak tablet to maybe slow the flow.

The antifreeze overflow bottle has been keeping a pretty constant level, just have to add an ounce or so once in a while.

Re: Amsoil 0W-30, 14,198 MILES, 1993 Civic [Re: harry j] #4958474 12/22/18 05:46 AM
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BTW, I have 144,400 miles on this head gasket, how long do these things last anyway? Seems to me thay should last a lot longer than that.

Re: Amsoil 0W-30, 14,198 MILES, 1993 Civic [Re: harry j] #4958667 12/22/18 12:18 PM
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An original one put on at the factory should last a while. I don’t see a reason for it to fail.

Once an engine is rebuilt, it’s hard to insure 100% smooth straight surfaces, so who knows.

140k @ 12k a year although doesn’t seem like long enough (should last for 300k or more) seems reasonable enough.

Just sucks to have to crack the block open for repairs.

Obviously the tablet you put in is temporary. Wouldn’t it make cleaning and fixing the issue later much harder?

I recently bought some wheels and one had that stupid green fix a flat goo all over inside the rim. The shop couldn’t even scrape it off. Just mounted new rubber as is. mad


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Re: Amsoil 0W-30, 14,198 MILES, 1993 Civic [Re: harry j] #4960081 12/24/18 05:38 AM
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Artem, as you point out, the anti-leak tablets are only a temporary solution. It will take a short time to cobble together the parts

Needed to do the head gasket replacement. I don't think cleaning will be much of a problem if memory serves, the last HG change was straight forward,

no problems at all.

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Sounds good. Best of luck to ya man. Keep us updated.


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