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Are dealers getting away from price haggling? #4940949
12/01/18 07:13 PM
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Deplorable in apple valley, ca
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The last couple times we bought a vehicle the dealer would not move from the sticker price.


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Re: Are dealers getting away from price haggling? [Re: Chris142] #4940956
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Some don't. Some do.


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Re: Are dealers getting away from price haggling? [Re: Chris142] #4940959
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They move or you move.

Sticker price is only for a vehicle that sells like hotcakes. Need to find the slow runner and buy at the end of the quarter and during the week or rainy days.

You want to go opposite tye crowd. Dont be afraid to be unreasonable, come up with a price and keep offering it u til someone bites

Re: Are dealers getting away from price haggling? [Re: Chris142] #4940968
12/01/18 07:30 PM
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If you bought used cars the situation may be different.

New cars all depends upon what the dealer is after - moving product. Some product moves fast, other product doesnt. If it doesnt move fast, better prices are more likely, especially if theyre sitting on it.

Used vehicles depend upon their understanding of demand, and the cost structure of what they paid to get the vehicle...

Re: Are dealers getting away from price haggling? [Re: Chris142] #4940969
12/01/18 07:31 PM
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They have to bargain. There are lotsa dealers out there. Call and email all the dealers with 100 miles.
I am curious: what car and what dealers?


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Re: Are dealers getting away from price haggling? [Re: Chris142] #4940974
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If they don't just move along down the road. Too many suckers is the problem!


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Re: Are dealers getting away from price haggling? [Re: Chris142] #4940976
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In the past I was able to walk and they would chase me down before I got out if the parking lot and try to haggle. The last couple of times they let me walk.


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87 F250 traveler 15w40
07 fjcruiser Chevron 10w30
Z400 castrol T 10w40
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Re: Are dealers getting away from price haggling? [Re: Chris142] #4940991
12/01/18 07:49 PM
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Yep,if a stealer is proud,WALK. In my experience,it's the sleazy small town stealers that are always like that.


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Re: Are dealers getting away from price haggling? [Re: Chris142] #4940992
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Originally Posted by Chris142
In the past I was able to walk and they would chase me down before I got out if the parking lot and try to haggle. The last couple of times they let me walk.


That seems to be pretty common... I guess too many people are paying full sticker price these days?


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Re: Are dealers getting away from price haggling? [Re: JohnnyJohnson] #4940995
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Originally Posted by JohnnyJohnson
If they don't just move along down the road. Too many suckers is the problem!


DO NOT OPEN this if you don't like hearing profanity:


"The evidence demands a verdict".
(Re:VOA)"it's nearly impossible to actually know the particular additives that are in there at what concentrations."
Re: Are dealers getting away from price haggling? [Re: Chris142] #4941001
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Quaker State Ultimate Durability 10W30
2012 Honda Accord Coupe EX-L 2.4,auto,San Marino Red
Pennzoil Platinum 5W20

Re: Are dealers getting away from price haggling? [Re: Chris142] #4941010
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When my Mom wanted to buy her new Matrix (back in '06) we talked to the Toyota dealers here-none of them here in greater Cincinnati wanted to make a good deal, at all. Went to Frankfort, KY-got around $3500 off sticker with no problem. Don't be afraid to walk, there's always another dealer who wants a sale!


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Re: Are dealers getting away from price haggling? [Re: Chris142] #4941017
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If you're talking about that FJ in you sig not surprising. If he doesn't sell it today he'll probably sell it for more next month. Happens when you buy a vehicle with a cult following.


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Re: Are dealers getting away from price haggling? [Re: AZjeff] #4941024
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^^^^^
Good point AZjeff.


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Re: Are dealers getting away from price haggling? [Re: JohnnyJohnson] #4941029
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Originally Posted by JohnnyJohnson
If they don't just move along down the road. Too many suckers is the problem!


The "Road" I move on is the electronic highway. Bought my last new car using a 500 mile range from home, got an array of prices and started working them via e-mail. When we got down to an acceptable spread, got on the phone with them. Took 15 minutes and 3 phone calls (them calling me back.)
I have found best focus is a small(er) town dealer close to a metro area. I live 20 minutes N of Columbus, and bought my last car from a dealer just S of Canton.
When I bought the Ranger in my signature (used,) they told me 9K take it or leave it. I bought it two weeks later for $5500. Always start out being nice, but don't hesitate to explore and exploit your "Inner jerk" at the proper moment.


2012 Honda Accord LX-P 95K
2008 Ford Mustang Pony Package Convertible 17K
2006 Honda Odyssey EX-L 76K
2003 Ford Ranger 3.0 Supercab 114K
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