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Re: New Surround A/V Receiver - Brand/model suggestions? [Re: 92saturnsl2] #4932118
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If you want to take a step up above the box store offerings, Emotiva gets lots of praise for their budget-friendly (relatively) offerings at the semi-entry level of audiophile equipment. I have one of their pre-amps in 2 channel.


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Re: New Surround A/V Receiver - Brand/model suggestions? [Re: Geauxtiger] #4932128
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Originally Posted by Geauxtiger
If you want to take a step up above the box store offerings, Emotiva gets lots of praise for their budget-friendly (relatively) offerings at the semi-entry level of audiophile equipment. I have one of their pre-amps in 2 channel.



I've seen the name and hadn't given them much more than a passing glance. Is your unit made in the states?


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Re: New Surround A/V Receiver - Brand/model suggestions? [Re: 92saturnsl2] #4932146
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I used to be heavily into home theater. Lost interest for awhile when I moved out into an apartment now I am in a house and wanted to get back into it. Bought a marantz dead on arrival returned for a yamaha was not impressed, years ago I had an onkyo ts601 something like that it was a great receiver they don't make them like that no more.

Point is I wouldn't spend a whole lot these electronics are junk now a days an entry level Sony has the same quality as most these 399-599 big jobbers.

Re: New Surround A/V Receiver - Brand/model suggestions? [Re: Oildudeny] #4932187
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Originally Posted by Oildudeny
years ago I had an onkyo ts601 something like that it was a great receiver they don't make them like that no more.

Point is I wouldn't spend a whole lot these electronics are junk now a days an entry level Sony has the same quality as most these 399-599 big jobbers.


Oh, they still make them like that, they are just pricey! Bryston (local) is one such company. Stuff is built like a tank, 20yr warranty.


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Re: New Surround A/V Receiver - Brand/model suggestions? [Re: beanoil] #4932200
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Check out accessories4less for refurbs and closeout models.


Thanks for the link, I certainly don't mind refurbs if there's a decent money to be saved.

Here's one that caught my eye and seems to be a lot for the money. A bit more expensive than I wanted, but it checks all the boxes and then some. Weighs over 30 pounds, the thing is a beast.

https://www.accessories4less.com/ma...thx-networking-a/v-receiver/1.html#!more

What is the "zone2" I see referred to often on the input panel and specs of these receivers?


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Re: New Surround A/V Receiver - Brand/model suggestions? [Re: 92saturnsl2] #4932203
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Zone 2 is another room. You can control it separately provided you run speaker cable to it.


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Re: New Surround A/V Receiver - Brand/model suggestions? [Re: OVERKILL] #4932344
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Re: New Surround A/V Receiver - Brand/model suggestions? [Re: OVERKILL] #4932701
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Originally Posted by OVERKILL
Originally Posted by Geauxtiger
If you want to take a step up above the box store offerings, Emotiva gets lots of praise for their budget-friendly (relatively) offerings at the semi-entry level of audiophile equipment. I have one of their pre-amps in 2 channel.



I've seen the name and hadn't given them much more than a passing glance. Is your unit made in the states?

Unfortunately....No. I just checked the backside and found China listed. Before you asked, I thought it was a U.S. made unit.


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Re: New Surround A/V Receiver - Brand/model suggestions? [Re: 92saturnsl2] #4932800
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That sucks frown I was reading their website and I saw mention of their philosophy but no confirmation that the products were produced in North America so I thought I'd ask.


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Re: New Surround A/V Receiver - Brand/model suggestions? [Re: 92saturnsl2] #4935787
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I have a Denon HTR in my main HTS as well as in my basement gaming system. Both are over 12 years old and I have never had an issue with them.


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Re: New Surround A/V Receiver - Brand/model suggestions? [Re: 92saturnsl2] #4936298
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OP,

The x.2 thing just means that you can plug 2 subs directly into the receiver. I don't like referring to it as .2 since no matter how many subs you use it is the same single discrete channel of sound.

Ignore the guy saying there is no reason to go from 5.1 to 7.1. In a home theater there is absolutely a reason. Many movies made in the last few years can take advantage of 7.1 and many more (Atmos and DTS:X). I run a 7.1.2 (or 7.3.2 if you follow the false nomenclature scheme of individually counting subs) system and I'll bring that fool over and show what two dedicated 20amp circuits of power sounds/feels like!

For $400 I would go to crutchfield.com and get the Denon AVR-X4200H they currently have for 400 off MSRP. Similar to the Denon 1500 people have recommended but with a few more HDMI inputs/outputs. It's a great buy at $400.

For my money at that price range, stick with Denon/Marantz, or Yamaha. Be forewarned however that in the last 10ish years ALL of the companies have started playing the game of being able to check off feature boxes and have cheapened out on the amp sections.


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Re: New Surround A/V Receiver - Brand/model suggestions? [Re: Cardiobuck] #4936727
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Originally Posted by Cardiobuck
OP,

The x.2 thing just means that you can plug 2 subs directly into the receiver. I don't like referring to it as .2 since no matter how many subs you use it is the same single discrete channel of sound.

Ignore the guy saying there is no reason to go from 5.1 to 7.1. In a home theater there is absolutely a reason. Many movies made in the last few years can take advantage of 7.1 and many more (Atmos and DTS:X). I run a 7.1.2 (or 7.3.2 if you follow the false nomenclature scheme of individually counting subs) system and I'll bring that fool over and show what two dedicated 20amp circuits of power sounds/feels like!

For $400 I would go to crutchfield.com and get the Denon AVR-X4200H they currently have for 400 off MSRP. Similar to the Denon 1500 people have recommended but with a few more HDMI inputs/outputs. It's a great buy at $400.

For my money at that price range, stick with Denon/Marantz, or Yamaha. Be forewarned however that in the last 10ish years ALL of the companies have started playing the game of being able to check off feature boxes and have cheapened out on the amp sections.




I agree 100% with respect to 7.1; the 7.1 BDs I have are amazing.


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Re: New Surround A/V Receiver - Brand/model suggestions? [Re: 92saturnsl2] #4937106
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I wasn't happy with the last Marantz receiver I had. It was great with movies but I didn't like it for music it was just too flat sounding. I replaced my speakers and gave the old ones to my dad with a 50x2 Onkyo stereo receiver that was way better with music than my 60w per channel Marantz. When my Marantz died I replaced it with a Onkyo and am happy, the first night I had it I blew one of the protection fuses in my old Cerwin Vega AT-12s.

Re: New Surround A/V Receiver - Brand/model suggestions? [Re: AVB] #4937473
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Originally Posted by AVB
I wasn't happy with the last Marantz receiver I had. It was great with movies but I didn't like it for music it was just too flat sounding. I replaced my speakers and gave the old ones to my dad with a 50x2 Onkyo stereo receiver that was way better with music than my 60w per channel Marantz. When my Marantz died I replaced it with a Onkyo and am happy, the first night I had it I blew one of the protection fuses in my old Cerwin Vega AT-12s.


That sounds like distortion. My DENON is rated at 120W/channel but it does nothing but feed the centre channel at this juncture. I have it paired to a Bryston 4B power amp which feeds ~280W/channel (and weighs about 75lbs) into my Paradigms. It can hit concert-level volumes and nothing goes thermal. Back when I had a set of CV's I made a similar discovery to you (protection circuit) but it ended up being distortion. Hooked up a more powerful amp, problem went away. FWIW.


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Re: New Surround A/V Receiver - Brand/model suggestions? [Re: 92saturnsl2] #4937490
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The 6xx series Yamaha is what you seek.


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