I found the reason. They don't have it as maxlife, only Valvoline high mileage.
Facing basic price parity, I will weigh the options.
Facing basic price parity, I will weigh the options.
Aisin DW-1 ATF specs?
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I managed to convince the boss to assist me on the fluid change, so I will be buying 3 gallons of Maxlife from AZ for expediency sake. If anything untoward develops, the RockAuto price will be fine to do another full swap. The change should take only 2 gallons but if it needs more, I will have it and the leftover can go for a drain and fill in a year (15-20k miles or so).
Thanks for the feedback.
If anyone ever tries the Aisin DW-1, please post to BITOG. I'd be interested in the results. I have a feeling that I am becoming a Honda person for my less sporty options.
Thanks for the feedback.
If anyone ever tries the Aisin DW-1, please post to BITOG. I'd be interested in the results. I have a feeling that I am becoming a Honda person for my less sporty options.
I ordered the ML ATF from WM online and it was delivered to my home for about $17 a gallon. I have been using this in our Civic since about 30k. At 131k now and still shifts like day 1. Just my .02
I bought some of this fluid and have done 2 out of the 3 drain and refills on my 2015 Accord V6. So far so good and i am thinking of sending a VOA to Blackstone so we can compare that to the Honda branded DW-1
Idemitsu is the OE supplier for DW1. They just announced that an aftermarket version of DW1 will be launching under the Idemitsu label this year; it will be called Idemitsu Type H Plus.
http://www.aapexshow.com/2017/Public/eBooth.aspx?BoothID=198196&Task=Products&ProdID=4482
http://www.aapexshow.com/2017/Public/eBooth.aspx?BoothID=198196&Task=Products&ProdID=4482
Originally Posted By: The Critic
Idemitsu is the OE supplier for DW1. They just announced that an aftermarket version of DW1 will be launching under the Idemitsu label this year; it will be called Idemitsu Type H Plus.
http://www.aapexshow.com/2017/Public/eBooth.aspx?BoothID=198196&Task=Products&ProdID=4482
Price is going to have to come down some though. I like the idea of it, but I haven't been able to find it anywhere that's not the same or more than just buying 12 quarts of DW1.
Idemitsu is the OE supplier for DW1. They just announced that an aftermarket version of DW1 will be launching under the Idemitsu label this year; it will be called Idemitsu Type H Plus.
http://www.aapexshow.com/2017/Public/eBooth.aspx?BoothID=198196&Task=Products&ProdID=4482
Price is going to have to come down some though. I like the idea of it, but I haven't been able to find it anywhere that's not the same or more than just buying 12 quarts of DW1.
Originally Posted By: ctechbob
Originally Posted By: The Critic
Idemitsu is the OE supplier for DW1. They just announced that an aftermarket version of DW1 will be launching under the Idemitsu label this year; it will be called Idemitsu Type H Plus.
http://www.aapexshow.com/2017/Public/eBooth.aspx?BoothID=198196&Task=Products&ProdID=4482
Price is going to have to come down some though. I like the idea of it, but I haven't been able to find it anywhere that's not the same or more than just buying 12 quarts of DW1.
WorldPac already shows a price for the Type-H+, but it is not available yet. The price shown is about 20% less than the wholesale cost of ATF-DW1.
Originally Posted By: The Critic
Idemitsu is the OE supplier for DW1. They just announced that an aftermarket version of DW1 will be launching under the Idemitsu label this year; it will be called Idemitsu Type H Plus.
http://www.aapexshow.com/2017/Public/eBooth.aspx?BoothID=198196&Task=Products&ProdID=4482
Price is going to have to come down some though. I like the idea of it, but I haven't been able to find it anywhere that's not the same or more than just buying 12 quarts of DW1.
WorldPac already shows a price for the Type-H+, but it is not available yet. The price shown is about 20% less than the wholesale cost of ATF-DW1.
Just for S&G I sent off an email to Idemitsu re: availability. They were prompt with answering, but unfortunately, both of the replies are pretty much non-answers:
Quoting "Esparza, Erick" :
> Hello Shawn,
>
> The ATF Type H Plus is available through Amazon. That is the only
> current retailer that has it available.
>
Dear Shawn,
H Plus is currently available on Amazon, however it is currently out of stock.
https://www.amazon.com/Idemitsu-H-Plus-A...idemitsu+H+Plus
The only other outlet would be a shop that receives our product from a warehouse distributor.
Hope that helped.
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Marlena Solomon
Digital Marketing Specialist
Quoting "Esparza, Erick" :
> Hello Shawn,
>
> The ATF Type H Plus is available through Amazon. That is the only
> current retailer that has it available.
>
Dear Shawn,
H Plus is currently available on Amazon, however it is currently out of stock.
https://www.amazon.com/Idemitsu-H-Plus-A...idemitsu+H+Plus
The only other outlet would be a shop that receives our product from a warehouse distributor.
Hope that helped.
Best regards,
Marlena Solomon
Digital Marketing Specialist
So if the Aisin VOA is representative and accurate (no reason to think otherwise), safe to say the topic fluid not same as DW1.
That said, as I use MaxLife in my for Z1 applications and would for out of warranty DW1 apps too, similarly topic ATF could (as Bl-St noted) also be fine in DW1 applications. And, apparently working fine for the one anecdote noted here.
Thanks for the ATF VOA.
That said, as I use MaxLife in my for Z1 applications and would for out of warranty DW1 apps too, similarly topic ATF could (as Bl-St noted) also be fine in DW1 applications. And, apparently working fine for the one anecdote noted here.
Thanks for the ATF VOA.
Thx for posting.
But Honda is the only global authorized retailer of DW-1.
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Just so i understand correctly, Petro-Can uses their own Base stocks and adds their version of additive to produce a Honda DW-1 ATF image [so to speak?]?
My wife has a 2012 Honda Accord that developed a transmission shutter at around 150,000 miles. I did the standard 3 quart dump and replaced the 3 quarts with Castrol MultiImport Transmax (dw-1 compatible fluid according to the back of the bottle...may have been the synthetic, im not sure). It fixed 90% of the transmission shutter, but it slowly started to come back. I decided to do a complete flush. The Castrol was purchased at Autozone for around $8-9.00 a quart. I found the same Aisin from rock auto and bought 9 quarts for around 4.50 and shipping cost an additional dollar because I was already ordering some parts. I did a complete flush and the car drove like it was brand new. This post is about 6 months since I did the flush with Aisin DW-1 fluid and it still drives and shifts like new. I will buy again without hesitation.
Originally Posted by bainmeister
My wife has a 2012 Honda Accord that developed a transmission shutter at around 150,000 miles. I did the standard 3 quart dump and replaced the 3 quarts with Castrol MultiImport Transmax (dw-1 compatible fluid according to the back of the bottle...may have been the synthetic, im not sure). It fixed 90% of the transmission shutter, but it slowly started to come back. I decided to do a complete flush. The Castrol was purchased at Autozone for around $8-9.00 a quart. I found the same Aisin from rock auto and bought 9 quarts for around 4.50 and shipping cost an additional dollar because I was already ordering some parts. I did a complete flush and the car drove like it was brand new. This post is about 6 months since I did the flush with Aisin DW-1 fluid and it still drives and shifts like new. I will buy again without hesitation.
It's good that it fixed the issue for you but the Aisin fluid is not actual DW-1 fluid, only the Honda brand fluid is. That doesn't mean it isn't any good but it isn't actual DW-1.
My wife has a 2012 Honda Accord that developed a transmission shutter at around 150,000 miles. I did the standard 3 quart dump and replaced the 3 quarts with Castrol MultiImport Transmax (dw-1 compatible fluid according to the back of the bottle...may have been the synthetic, im not sure). It fixed 90% of the transmission shutter, but it slowly started to come back. I decided to do a complete flush. The Castrol was purchased at Autozone for around $8-9.00 a quart. I found the same Aisin from rock auto and bought 9 quarts for around 4.50 and shipping cost an additional dollar because I was already ordering some parts. I did a complete flush and the car drove like it was brand new. This post is about 6 months since I did the flush with Aisin DW-1 fluid and it still drives and shifts like new. I will buy again without hesitation.
It's good that it fixed the issue for you but the Aisin fluid is not actual DW-1 fluid, only the Honda brand fluid is. That doesn't mean it isn't any good but it isn't actual DW-1.
Originally Posted by kschachn
….It's good that it fixed the issue for you but the Aisin fluid is not actual DW-1 fluid, only the Honda brand fluid is. That doesn't mean it isn't any good but it isn't actual DW-1.
+1 Good to see this noted again. Seems to be some implication that topic fluid is DW1. VOA this thread says otherwise.
Also I too no problem with it's use, just not saying it's identical to DW1. Being satisfied with readily available ML use in a couple Honda vehicles, I wouldn't pay more for topic fluid.
….It's good that it fixed the issue for you but the Aisin fluid is not actual DW-1 fluid, only the Honda brand fluid is. That doesn't mean it isn't any good but it isn't actual DW-1.
+1 Good to see this noted again. Seems to be some implication that topic fluid is DW1. VOA this thread says otherwise.
Also I too no problem with it's use, just not saying it's identical to DW1. Being satisfied with readily available ML use in a couple Honda vehicles, I wouldn't pay more for topic fluid.
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