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Re: 2018 Subie Crosstrek 1st oil change [Re: goodtimes] #4893788
10/11/18 10:37 AM
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Originally Posted by goodtimes
Originally Posted by Miller88
DO NOT use a 12 point socket on the 14mm drain plug. For some reason they put the small drain plug in and then painted it. You can't fit a 13mm on it (or 1/2), but 14mm and 9/16 are lose on it. If you use a 12 point, you will strip it.


they make 17/32 wrenches,.sockets, how about that?


It might actually be the right size. Though, it doesn't use the American system, so I think 13.5 or "13,5mm" is more appropriate!


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Re: 2018 Subie Crosstrek 1st oil change [Re: dave123] #4893789
10/11/18 10:38 AM
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Originally Posted by dave123
1st change on my 18 WOW that drain bolt is Tiiiiight!!!! Mine OEM filters only all cut yea it’s a decent filter no problems almost 30k I like the engine never a drop burns. Zepro high moly 0W20.


I couldn't get mine off without some work. I was afraid of rounding it even with a 6 point. I ended up taking a sledge hammer to a 1/2'' drive 6 inch ratchet in order to get it off. I didn't want to yarn on it with a breaker bar and have more risk of rounding it.


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Re: 2018 Subie Crosstrek 1st oil change [Re: aba4430] #4893926
10/11/18 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by aba4430
Before anyone goes bonkers, the Purolator Boss PBL 14615 is a good filter for the CrossTrek. My son used it on his 18 CrossTrek (@2400 miles now) and I have used it on our 17 OB 2.5 with no issues. The start up rattle is subdued with the PBL14615 on the OB...…., vs. the original blue Subie filter. I am presently running the Fram Ultra 7317 on the OB and will go back to the PBL14615 next time.

Motorking told me the 7317 filters are OK for Subaru applications in Ultra or Tough Guard flavors or he might have mentioned that publically.

The specs on that Purolator look good, maybe I should try one and send it into '53 Stude for a teardown.

I use the Toyota 90915-YZZS1 filter for the FR-S/FT-86, made by Denso in Thailand and it's a fat and short filter that just clears the lip on the oil filter mount. I prefer the OEM Fram-made filter myself but I hate Subaru parts departments.

Re: 2018 Subie Crosstrek 1st oil change [Re: Miller88] #4894201
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Originally Posted by Miller88
Originally Posted by dave123
1st change on my 18 WOW that drain bolt is Tiiiiight!!!! Mine OEM filters only all cut yea it’s a decent filter no problems almost 30k I like the engine never a drop burns. Zepro high moly 0W20.


I couldn't get mine off without some work. I was afraid of rounding it even with a 6 point. I ended up taking a sledge hammer to a 1/2'' drive 6 inch ratchet in order to get it off. I didn't want to yarn on it with a breaker bar and have more risk of rounding it.


Other people have mentioned this challenge with this engine, so I approached the first drain with some trepidation.
This proved to be misplaced since the plug on our '17 came out with no special effort.
Part of the problem that people may be having with the drain plug and rounding may be a result of the awkward angle of the plug on the sump as well as the small hatch that Subaru gives you to get to it.
You do have to be careful to properly seat the socket. After that, a clean change is really easy with these as is the case with every Subaru we've owned.


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Re: 2018 Subie Crosstrek 1st oil change [Re: nthach] #4894572
10/12/18 10:04 AM
10/12/18 10:04 AM
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Originally Posted by nthach
Originally Posted by aba4430
Before anyone goes bonkers, the Purolator Boss PBL 14615 is a good filter for the CrossTrek. My son used it on his 18 CrossTrek (@2400 miles now) and I have used it on our 17 OB 2.5 with no issues. The start up rattle is subdued with the PBL14615 on the OB...…., vs. the original blue Subie filter. I am presently running the Fram Ultra 7317 on the OB and will go back to the PBL14615 next time.

Motorking told me the 7317 filters are OK for Subaru applications in Ultra or Tough Guard flavors or he might have mentioned that publically.

The specs on that Purolator look good, maybe I should try one and send it into '53 Stude for a teardown.

I use the Toyota 90915-YZZS1 filter for the FR-S/FT-86, made by Denso in Thailand and it's a fat and short filter that just clears the lip on the oil filter mount. I prefer the OEM Fram-made filter myself but I hate Subaru parts departments.


AGREED! I called the parts dept and they sounded like I was bothering them...NAPA here i come...

Re: 2018 Subie Crosstrek 1st oil change [Re: 1bioguy] #4894576
10/12/18 10:05 AM
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"Other people have mentioned this challenge with this engine, so I approached the first drain with some trepidation.
This proved to be misplaced since the plug on our '17 came out with no special effort.
Part of the problem that people may be having with the drain plug and rounding may be a result of the awkward angle of the plug on the sump as well as the small hatch that Subaru gives you to get to it.
You do have to be careful to properly seat the socket. After that, a clean change is really easy with these as is the case with every Subaru we've owned."



This was helpful , been afraid to try...

Re: 2018 Subie Crosstrek 1st oil change [Re: 1bioguy] #4894626
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On a brand new vehicle it’s usually the paint that hinders the first loosening of the drain plug. I use a small sharp knife to score around the plug. The rest is brute strength.

I would rather use a longer ratchet like a 12-14” than hitting it with a sledge hammer. Then again, I was t there.

The filters are usually the hardest part to loosen in a new car.


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Havoline Pro DS 0w20
Roki OEM filter.
Re: 2018 Subie Crosstrek 1st oil change [Re: PimTac] #4894778
10/12/18 02:12 PM
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The Subaru bypass setting on factory filters is 23 psi. The Premium Guard PG4615 filter has this exact setting and sell for $1.68 at Rock Auto. I have been running these to 7500 miles and they look fantastic upon the end of life inspection.


2016 Nissan Versa S 1.6L
2018 Subaru Outback 2.5i
2019 Ford F250 6.7L CCSB

Re: 2018 Subie Crosstrek 1st oil change [Re: 1bioguy] #4897248
10/15/18 04:50 PM
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Anybody use the Fram Racing HP17??

Re: 2018 Subie Crosstrek 1st oil change [Re: Miller88] #4897281
10/15/18 06:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Miller88
Originally Posted by goodtimes
Originally Posted by Miller88
DO NOT use a 12 point socket on the 14mm drain plug. For some reason they put the small drain plug in and then painted it. You can't fit a 13mm on it (or 1/2), but 14mm and 9/16 are lose on it. If you use a 12 point, you will strip it.


they make 17/32 wrenches,.sockets, how about that?


It might actually be the right size. Though, it doesn't use the American system, so I think 13.5 or "13,5mm" is more appropriate!


17/32 is 13.5 essentially.

http://mdmetric.com/tech/cvtchtfdm.htm

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