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Re: Hard To Beat Meguiar's Ultimate Wax ! [Re: grampi] #4894042 10/11/18 03:05 PM
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Originally Posted by grampi
That hasn't been my experience at all. NO Meguiar's product I've used, and I've used their Ultimate, lasts as long as the 845, and I've never had dust from the 845 no matter how it was applied...

I fully understand. In reality, we're talking about different experiences that include different application process steps and/or tools/materials, as well as climates, as well as densities of product used.

Most folks don't use a DA polisher for these products of course, so that's a variant.

In any case...having used both...either one does a very good job. I just prefer the ease of application experience with Meguiar's more, given the choice.

Happy detailing!


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Re: Hard To Beat Meguiar's Ultimate Wax ! [Re: grampi] #4894051 10/11/18 03:18 PM
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Originally Posted by grampi
That hasn't been my experience at all. NO Meguiar's product I've used, and I've used their Ultimate, lasts as long as the 845, and I've never had dust from the 845 no matter how it was applied...


Go easy on him, the fumes from the Megs and/or the Chemical Guys Banana Spray detailer have gone to his head. LOL

Those two products and Hyoooundays are the only things he likes. LOL

Re: Hard To Beat Meguiar's Ultimate Wax ! [Re: SatinSilver] #4894078 10/11/18 03:56 PM
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That hasn't been my experience at all. NO Meguiar's product I've used, and I've used their Ultimate, lasts as long as the 845, and I've never had dust from the 845 no matter how it was applied...


Go easy on him, the fumes from the Megs and/or the Chemical Guys Banana Spray detailer have gone to his head. LOL

Those two products and Hyoooundays are the only things he likes. LOL

Naaah....there are a number of great products...and we all have our own "preferred ones".


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Re: Hard To Beat Meguiar's Ultimate Wax ! [Re: ChrisD46] #4894106 10/11/18 05:06 PM
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Doesn't Megs Ultimate represent a more modern (improved) formulation than Collinite 845 ? ... Some people state that 845 will slightly stain certain types of exterior plastics molding , etc. found on newer vehicles where as Megs Ultimate does not .

My routine :

*Wash
*Clay
*Megs Ultimate Polish
*Megs Ultimate Wax

Do above 3X per year ; in between this routine I wash with Meg's Ultimate Wash every few weeks when possible , dry then apply Turtle Wax ICE spray wax on vehicle body and glass ...Seems to work well as a person can fit in with a busy lifestyle and isn't difficult for any of the steps either .


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Re: Hard To Beat Meguiar's Ultimate Wax ! [Re: grampi] #4894297 10/11/18 09:29 PM
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Originally Posted by grampi
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The down side is it won't last as long. If you're doing the job anyway, why not use a better product?

Sorry...my experience is that Meguiar's Ultimate lasts as long as any other product used in recent years, including 845.

When using a DA for 845...you get dust...not so with Meguiar's. That's the only reason I consider 845 a great product, but 1 step below Meguiar's from actual use of both.

Applying it is easier than any other product as well, as a DA polisher can be used but is overkill. You can't go wrong with either product as far as durability.


That hasn't been my experience at all. NO Meguiar's product I've used, and I've used their Ultimate, lasts as long as the 845, and I've never had dust from the 845 no matter how it was applied...

I apply 845 with a DA and I don't get dust, either.
I've yet to use a Meg's wax that lasts as long as 845 but I'm going to try this at some point since it's a newer formula than the ones I've used in the past.

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Re: Hard To Beat Meguiar's Ultimate Wax ! [Re: ChrisD46] #4894333 10/11/18 10:25 PM
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845 is jjust older Meg's Ultimate formula In different packaging.


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Re: Hard To Beat Meguiar's Ultimate Wax ! [Re: ChrisD46] #4894466 10/12/18 07:08 AM
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Originally Posted by ChrisD46
Doesn't Megs Ultimate represent a more modern (improved) formulation than Collinite 845 ? ... Some people state that 845 will slightly stain certain types of exterior plastics molding , etc. found on newer vehicles where as Megs Ultimate does not .

My routine :

*Wash
*Clay
*Megs Ultimate Polish
*Megs Ultimate Wax

Do above 3X per year ; in between this routine I wash with Meg's Ultimate Wash every few weeks when possible , dry then apply Turtle Wax ICE spray wax on vehicle body and glass ...Seems to work well as a person can fit in with a busy lifestyle and isn't difficult for any of the steps either .



Not only have I never heard anyone say that Collinite stains trim, I always hear people say one of the reasons they like it so much is because it DOESN'T stain trim. I actually use it on my trim because it makes it look better...

Re: Hard To Beat Meguiar's Ultimate Wax ! [Re: gofast182] #4894467 10/12/18 07:09 AM
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Originally Posted by gofast182
I apply 845 with a DA and I don't get dust, either.
I've yet to use a Meg's wax that lasts as long as 845 but I'm going to try this at some point since it's a newer formula than the ones I've used in the past.

Not even on trim huh?

...and a big difference between staining trim and dust on trim grampi... numerous others have reported it too at various online sites...especially with a DA polisher and especially on trim...but it's said luck counts.

I'll keep doing things easier and with tip top results using Meguiar's Ultimate thank you.

In fact...a project for this weekend...the semi-annual 6-step detailing on 2 vehicles both in an afternoon easily. 75 degrees and sunny...perfect weather to get the job done right and in only 4 hours or less for both rides. Since the last time...the interim Banana stuff has kept the exterior on both looking like I just detailed them.


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Re: Hard To Beat Meguiar's Ultimate Wax ! [Re: HYUNDAIFAN0001] #4894474 10/12/18 07:32 AM
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Originally Posted by HYUNDAIFAN0001
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I apply 845 with a DA and I don't get dust, either.
I've yet to use a Meg's wax that lasts as long as 845 but I'm going to try this at some point since it's a newer formula than the ones I've used in the past.

Not even on trim huh?

...and a big difference between staining trim and dust on trim grampi... numerous others have reported it too at various online sites...especially with a DA polisher and especially on trim...but it's said luck counts.

I'll keep doing things easier and with tip top results using Meguiar's Ultimate thank you.

In fact...a project for this weekend...the semi-annual 6-step detailing on 2 vehicles both in an afternoon easily. 75 degrees and sunny...perfect weather to get the job done right and in only 4 hours or less for both rides. Since the last time...the interim Banana stuff has kept the exterior on both looking like I just detailed them.


This back and forth kind of reminds me of the Nufinish arguments. We are getting nowhere with this. You have one experience with the product, and I (and others) have another.

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Re: Hard To Beat Meguiar's Ultimate Wax ! [Re: ChrisD46] #4894619 10/12/18 11:04 AM
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I really don't understand the axe you're grinding, Hyundai guy.

Meguiar's Ultimate is as great all-rounder, but it's not the best at anything. It's not even the best all-rounder!

It is a quality product at a fair price - nothing more.

Everyone has their favorite.


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Re: Hard To Beat Meguiar's Ultimate Wax ! [Re: rooflessVW] #4894623 10/12/18 11:09 AM
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Originally Posted by rooflessVW
I really don't understand the axe you're grinding, Hyundai guy.

Meguiar's Ultimate is as great all-rounder, but it's not the best at anything. It's not even the best all-rounder!

It is a quality product at a fair price - nothing more.

Everyone has their favorite.





Yep. It’s a bit silly to have these “mine is better than yours” discussions.

The best protection for your car is the one you have on there currently.


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Re: Hard To Beat Meguiar's Ultimate Wax ! [Re: rooflessVW] #4894692 10/12/18 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted by rooflessVW
I really don't understand the axe you're grinding, Hyundai guy.

Why the drama comment?

Stated as difference of opinion...nothing more. The whole world doesn't take things at face value, and some folks have actual experience with multiple products, with differing results.

It seems anytime someone disagrees...a few folks chime in with their drama comments. People need to cool their jets.




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Re: Hard To Beat Meguiar's Ultimate Wax ! [Re: ChrisD46] #4894926 10/12/18 05:40 PM
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Folks this is a most entertaining and silly, pointless thread. Thank you for the entertainment. Am I being snide? Yes, as a matter of fact I am, just read this whole thread and see for yourself why it should be closed.

Re: Hard To Beat Meguiar's Ultimate Wax ! [Re: HYUNDAIFAN0001] #4894951 10/12/18 06:16 PM
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Originally Posted by HYUNDAIFAN0001
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I really don't understand the axe you're grinding, Hyundai guy.

Why the drama comment?

Stated as difference of opinion...nothing more. The whole world doesn't take things at face value, and some folks have actual experience with multiple products, with differing results.

It seems anytime someone disagrees...a few folks chime in with their drama comments. People need to cool their jets.

You've stated your opinion, and that's fine. Every time someone offers one to the contrary, you hammer on how they're wrong because... Because.

Quoting that particular part of my post, focusing on that, and trying to call someone else out for drama... Nice.

My jets are cool. Give your broken record a rest.


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Re: Hard To Beat Meguiar's Ultimate Wax ! [Re: rooflessVW] #4895041 10/12/18 07:48 PM
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My jets are cool. Give your broken record a rest.

Not really. Hello pot...meet kettle.

And ditch the tool references...axe...hammer...


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