Agree 100% 30 grade was original spec.
No issue going with the 0w-30 SS year round....probably a one year interval.
No issue going with the 0w-30 SS year round....probably a one year interval.
0w30 for the new Caravan?
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Originally Posted by JLTD
Agree 100% 30 grade was original spec.
No issue going with the 0w-30 SS year round....probably a one year interval.
50,000km (30K Miles) would be too much for year round interval.
Agree 100% 30 grade was original spec.
No issue going with the 0w-30 SS year round....probably a one year interval.
50,000km (30K Miles) would be too much for year round interval.
The SS 0W30 is perfectly fine. I would imagine the rest of the car will fall apart around the engine. The Pentastar engines of later versions are VERY good engines. I have ran an oil grade higher than specd in many engines with good results.
Originally Posted by StevieC
Originally Posted by JLTD
Agree 100% 30 grade was original spec.
No issue going with the 0w-30 SS year round....probably a one year interval.
50,000km (30K Miles) would be too much for year round interval.
Whups well then, appropriate interval with UOA.
Originally Posted by JLTD
Agree 100% 30 grade was original spec.
No issue going with the 0w-30 SS year round....probably a one year interval.
50,000km (30K Miles) would be too much for year round interval.
Whups well then, appropriate interval with UOA.
Welcome to the thick side
I was researching 0Wx30 for a while ... then decided to use 5W since it more than meets my cold temp W rating (-22°F)
From my limited research seems like 0Wx30 may have a better base oil and more of natural vii but that's where I stopped and will go back to it when I have more time. Limited research is always dangerous though
I was researching 0Wx30 for a while ... then decided to use 5W since it more than meets my cold temp W rating (-22°F)
From my limited research seems like 0Wx30 may have a better base oil and more of natural vii but that's where I stopped and will go back to it when I have more time. Limited research is always dangerous though
5w30 all the way for our Grand Caravan. I'm thinking on switching to 10w30, since it's not going to see a normal Canadian winter this year.
I'm going to break it in on Conventional 5w20 with short change intervals then switch to Amsoil 0w20 for as we are in the cooler temperatures now anyway and then switch it over to the 0w30 maybe in the spring when the temperatures are mild. This way it will have enough miles on it that the break-in is over and I can run comparative UOA's.
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Originally Posted by StevieC
I'm going to break it in on Conventional 5w20 with short change intervals then switch to Amsoil 0w20 for as we are in the cooler temperatures now anyway and then switch it over to the 0w30 maybe in the spring when the temperatures are mild. This way it will have enough miles on it that the break-in is over and I can run comparative UOA's.
Regarding break in, I don't know how you want to do it, hard, normal, easy, I did it hard btw, once the oil was up to temp the EVIS display is great for that, as it shows oil temp and pressure.
In any case, take advantage of the manual mode and do some compression braking very early on.
I'm going to break it in on Conventional 5w20 with short change intervals then switch to Amsoil 0w20 for as we are in the cooler temperatures now anyway and then switch it over to the 0w30 maybe in the spring when the temperatures are mild. This way it will have enough miles on it that the break-in is over and I can run comparative UOA's.
Regarding break in, I don't know how you want to do it, hard, normal, easy, I did it hard btw, once the oil was up to temp the EVIS display is great for that, as it shows oil temp and pressure.
In any case, take advantage of the manual mode and do some compression braking very early on.
I usually drive moderately until it hits 100km (not babying it, but not lead footing either, certainly no WOT), then drive moderately for the next 400km until it hits 500km with some fully warmed up WOT's from 3rd gear forward, followed by engine braking so that the rings are worked in both ways. I like using the escarpment up/down for this as it loads the rings well.
This is sort of Terry's advice and I have relied on it with past vehicles and ended up with 0 oil consumption and long lives. Santa Fe was done this way and didn't consume any oil when it died.
This is sort of Terry's advice and I have relied on it with past vehicles and ended up with 0 oil consumption and long lives. Santa Fe was done this way and didn't consume any oil when it died.
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Originally Posted by KrisZ
5w30 all the way for our Grand Caravan. I'm thinking on switching to 10w30, since it's not going to see a normal Canadian winter this year.
Are you saying winter is cancelled in Toronto this year? Woohoo!
5w30 all the way for our Grand Caravan. I'm thinking on switching to 10w30, since it's not going to see a normal Canadian winter this year.
Are you saying winter is cancelled in Toronto this year? Woohoo!
The farmers almanac folks seem to think it's going to be cold and brutal when it finally gets here with lots of "Polar Vortex's" the news south of the border can blame us for again.
That said I had to flip my A/C back on this weekend because it was quite muggy the past couple of days so I'm not sure Winter is ever going to get here Pat.
That said I had to flip my A/C back on this weekend because it was quite muggy the past couple of days so I'm not sure Winter is ever going to get here Pat.
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Originally Posted by StevieC
I usually drive moderately until it hits 100km (not babying it, but not lead footing either, certainly no WOT), then drive moderately for the next 400km until it hits 500km with some fully warmed up WOT's from 3rd gear forward, followed by engine braking so that the rings are worked in both ways. I like using the escarpment up/down for this as it loads the rings well.
This is sort of Terry's advice and I have relied on it with past vehicles and ended up with 0 oil consumption and long lives. Santa Fe was done this way and didn't consume any oil when it died.
Nice! Did something similar with my Mazda 3 and I was more aggressive with GC, both don't show any change in oil level througout the OCI.
I usually drive moderately until it hits 100km (not babying it, but not lead footing either, certainly no WOT), then drive moderately for the next 400km until it hits 500km with some fully warmed up WOT's from 3rd gear forward, followed by engine braking so that the rings are worked in both ways. I like using the escarpment up/down for this as it loads the rings well.
This is sort of Terry's advice and I have relied on it with past vehicles and ended up with 0 oil consumption and long lives. Santa Fe was done this way and didn't consume any oil when it died.
Nice! Did something similar with my Mazda 3 and I was more aggressive with GC, both don't show any change in oil level througout the OCI.
Originally Posted by Patman
Originally Posted by KrisZ
5w30 all the way for our Grand Caravan. I'm thinking on switching to 10w30, since it's not going to see a normal Canadian winter this year.
Are you saying winter is cancelled in Toronto this year? Woohoo!
Don't celebrate yet
I got a work offer south of the border in sunny CA, no winters there. But I notice lots of people from there worry about cold starts, so perhaps I should reconsider my plan to use 10w30.
Originally Posted by KrisZ
5w30 all the way for our Grand Caravan. I'm thinking on switching to 10w30, since it's not going to see a normal Canadian winter this year.
Are you saying winter is cancelled in Toronto this year? Woohoo!
Don't celebrate yet
I got a work offer south of the border in sunny CA, no winters there. But I notice lots of people from there worry about cold starts, so perhaps I should reconsider my plan to use 10w30.
Originally Posted by KrisZ
Originally Posted by Patman
Originally Posted by KrisZ
5w30 all the way for our Grand Caravan. I'm thinking on switching to 10w30, since it's not going to see a normal Canadian winter this year.
Are you saying winter is cancelled in Toronto this year? Woohoo!
Don't celebrate yet
I got a work offer south of the border in sunny CA, no winters there. But I notice lots of people from there worry about cold starts, so perhaps I should reconsider my plan to use 10w30.
LOL Southern Californians start putting on their heavy coats when it gets below 70°F / 21°C...they think they're going to die if it's below 40°F/ 4°C
Originally Posted by Patman
Originally Posted by KrisZ
5w30 all the way for our Grand Caravan. I'm thinking on switching to 10w30, since it's not going to see a normal Canadian winter this year.
Are you saying winter is cancelled in Toronto this year? Woohoo!
Don't celebrate yet
I got a work offer south of the border in sunny CA, no winters there. But I notice lots of people from there worry about cold starts, so perhaps I should reconsider my plan to use 10w30.
LOL Southern Californians start putting on their heavy coats when it gets below 70°F / 21°C...they think they're going to die if it's below 40°F/ 4°C
Originally Posted by JLTD
Originally Posted by KrisZ
Originally Posted by Patman
Originally Posted by KrisZ
5w30 all the way for our Grand Caravan. I'm thinking on switching to 10w30, since it's not going to see a normal Canadian winter this year.
Are you saying winter is cancelled in Toronto this year? Woohoo!
Don't celebrate yet
I got a work offer south of the border in sunny CA, no winters there. But I notice lots of people from there worry about cold starts, so perhaps I should reconsider my plan to use 10w30.
LOL Southern Californians start putting on their heavy coats when it gets below 70°F / 21°C...they think they're going to die if it's below 40°F/ 4°C
Isn't that the truth. A couple of days ago, in the evening the temperature was down to about 68 and a neighbor had their fireplace going! This is after it had been in the mid 80's a few hours earlier.
Originally Posted by KrisZ
Originally Posted by Patman
Originally Posted by KrisZ
5w30 all the way for our Grand Caravan. I'm thinking on switching to 10w30, since it's not going to see a normal Canadian winter this year.
Are you saying winter is cancelled in Toronto this year? Woohoo!
Don't celebrate yet
I got a work offer south of the border in sunny CA, no winters there. But I notice lots of people from there worry about cold starts, so perhaps I should reconsider my plan to use 10w30.
LOL Southern Californians start putting on their heavy coats when it gets below 70°F / 21°C...they think they're going to die if it's below 40°F/ 4°C
Isn't that the truth. A couple of days ago, in the evening the temperature was down to about 68 and a neighbor had their fireplace going! This is after it had been in the mid 80's a few hours earlier.
When I spoke to a Jamaican who had never left the island, he shuddered at the thought of a temperature below 60 F. Haha.
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Originally Posted by StevieC
The farmers almanac folks seem to think it's going to be cold and brutal when it finally gets here with lots of "Polar Vortex's" the news south of the border can blame us for again.
Forget the Farmer's Almanac, I prefer my weather forecasts from actual experts (which admittedly get it wrong a lot too!) That being said, David Phillips of Enivronment Canada is usually pretty accurate with his seasonal forecasts and he says we're getting a mild winter
https://www.inhalton.com/environment-canada-reveals-winter-weather-forecast
That being said, I'm still going to book a couple of trips to Florida this winter, and am counting down the days to 2022 when we retire and start heading to Florida for the entire winter. I must be part Jamaican, as I shudder at the thought of anything below 60F too.
The farmers almanac folks seem to think it's going to be cold and brutal when it finally gets here with lots of "Polar Vortex's" the news south of the border can blame us for again.
Forget the Farmer's Almanac, I prefer my weather forecasts from actual experts (which admittedly get it wrong a lot too!) That being said, David Phillips of Enivronment Canada is usually pretty accurate with his seasonal forecasts and he says we're getting a mild winter
https://www.inhalton.com/environment-canada-reveals-winter-weather-forecast
That being said, I'm still going to book a couple of trips to Florida this winter, and am counting down the days to 2022 when we retire and start heading to Florida for the entire winter. I must be part Jamaican, as I shudder at the thought of anything below 60F too.
In South Carolina anything below 60F is considered "Winter".
Originally Posted by Patman
Originally Posted by StevieC
The farmers almanac folks seem to think it's going to be cold and brutal when it finally gets here with lots of "Polar Vortex's" the news south of the border can blame us for again.
Forget the Farmer's Almanac, I prefer my weather forecasts from actual experts (which admittedly get it wrong a lot too!) That being said, David Phillips of Enivronment Canada is usually pretty accurate with his seasonal forecasts and he says we're getting a mild winter
https://www.inhalton.com/environment-canada-reveals-winter-weather-forecast
That being said, I'm still going to book a couple of trips to Florida this winter, and am counting down the days to 2022 when we retire and start heading to Florida for the entire winter. I must be part Jamaican, as I shudder at the thought of anything below 60F too.
LOL... You are a few years ahead of me retiring but let me know when you are done traveling to Florida for the winters, I might be in the market and can make a deal.
As for forecasters, I will take your word on it because everyone else making predictions always seems to get it wrong. Even a couple days out on the local news. Hahahaha
Originally Posted by StevieC
The farmers almanac folks seem to think it's going to be cold and brutal when it finally gets here with lots of "Polar Vortex's" the news south of the border can blame us for again.
Forget the Farmer's Almanac, I prefer my weather forecasts from actual experts (which admittedly get it wrong a lot too!) That being said, David Phillips of Enivronment Canada is usually pretty accurate with his seasonal forecasts and he says we're getting a mild winter
https://www.inhalton.com/environment-canada-reveals-winter-weather-forecast
That being said, I'm still going to book a couple of trips to Florida this winter, and am counting down the days to 2022 when we retire and start heading to Florida for the entire winter. I must be part Jamaican, as I shudder at the thought of anything below 60F too.
LOL... You are a few years ahead of me retiring but let me know when you are done traveling to Florida for the winters, I might be in the market and can make a deal.
As for forecasters, I will take your word on it because everyone else making predictions always seems to get it wrong. Even a couple days out on the local news. Hahahaha
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