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Re: Picked up a new Glock 45 [Re: hatt] #4883748 09/30/18 12:49 PM
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Glock also says that the gen 5 guns blow the old pistols out of the water in long term reliability. According to them, the new guns are by far the most reliable they have ever made. So for me, the gen 3 was the gold standard legendary pistol, the gen 4 was mehhhh, and the gen 5 blows them out of the water.
The caveat to the Gen5 is it all good if you like it and if you are only seeking 9MM. Unless something has been changed since it was released with the Gen5 changes in the locking block, it cannot be used in higher pressure calibers. All of my Gen4 pistols are from 2016 and forward and have been nothing but reliable with two of them now pushing 12K in rounds down range. It will be interesting to see how the Gen5 fares, then again, what pistol from Glock has not ever paid for itself--for the company or the user?
9mm is a high pressure round. The most likely reason Gen5 guns are in 9mm because 9mm is super hot right now.
As compared to what? 10MM, .357SIG?


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Re: Picked up a new Glock 45 [Re: 2015_PSD] #4883834 09/30/18 02:21 PM
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Glock also says that the gen 5 guns blow the old pistols out of the water in long term reliability. According to them, the new guns are by far the most reliable they have ever made. So for me, the gen 3 was the gold standard legendary pistol, the gen 4 was mehhhh, and the gen 5 blows them out of the water.
The caveat to the Gen5 is it all good if you like it and if you are only seeking 9MM. Unless something has been changed since it was released with the Gen5 changes in the locking block, it cannot be used in higher pressure calibers. All of my Gen4 pistols are from 2016 and forward and have been nothing but reliable with two of them now pushing 12K in rounds down range. It will be interesting to see how the Gen5 fares, then again, what pistol from Glock has not ever paid for itself--for the company or the user?
9mm is a high pressure round. The most likely reason Gen5 guns are in 9mm because 9mm is super hot right now.
As compared to what? 10MM, .357SIG?

9mm +p is 38,500 psi. That's higher than SAAMI specs for .40 and 10mm. I think 357 Sig is 40,000 but 9mm is plenty high pressure. 9mm NATO may be higher than 40,000 but I don't remember. The only "low pressure" service round I can think of is .45 ACP.

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Re: Picked up a new Glock 45 [Re: hatt] #4884094 09/30/18 08:08 PM
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[The caveat to the Gen5 is it all good if you like it and if you are only seeking 9MM. Unless something has been changed since it was released with the Gen5 changes in the locking block, it cannot be used in higher pressure calibers. All of my Gen4 pistols are from 2016 and forward and have been nothing but reliable with two of them now pushing 12K in rounds down range. It will be interesting to see how the Gen5 fares, then again, what pistol from Glock has not ever paid for itself--for the company or the user?
9mm is a high pressure round. The most likely reason Gen5 guns are in 9mm because 9mm is super hot right now.
As compared to what? 10MM, .357SIG?
9mm +p is 38,500 psi. That's higher than SAAMI specs for .40 and 10mm. I think 357 Sig is 40,000 but 9mm is plenty high pressure. 9mm NATO may be higher than 40,000 but I don't remember. The only "low pressure" service round I can think of is .45 ACP.
I read quite a bit about the Gen5 before it debuted and this is was stuck with me--particularly the bold parts. For me, it simply does not matter because I will not pick up any Gen 5 pistols, but for clarity, I think it is worthy of note:

First and second generation Glocks had triggers with only one pin in the locking block/trigger mechanism. A second pin, the locking block pin, was added to third generation pistols because the trigger pin alone wasn’t strong enough to deal with some cartridges [read: .40 cal] and displayed durability issues on high round-count pistols. Now with the fifth generation, the locking block pin has gone to live at the farm with the grip’s finger grooves. While this change might be a result of Glock improving the strength and design of the trigger bar and locking block components, we suspect that’s part of the story. Since Glock says the Gen5’s will only be offered in 9mm, the parts may not require the .40 cal reinforcement that came from the locking block pin.

Read more: http://www.recoilweb.com/inside-the-glock-gen-5-129141.html


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Re: Picked up a new Glock 45 [Re: buck91] #4884633 10/01/18 02:46 PM
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I saw this was released but got sidetracked before checking it out. So this is basically a combination of gen 5 19 and 17? Not sure I get that, as even with my large'ish meatpaws I can comfortably handle and shoot the 19/23. And I would want the extra barrel length and sight radius more, anyways. But I haven't handled one, perhaps I am mistaken?


The gun was designed for duty use straight up. When sitting in a car the shorter slide of the 19 doesn't bottom out on the seat as much on an OWB duty rig. The longer slide 17 is more uncomfortable for more people sitting in a patrol car. The longer grip is for 2 extra rounds which may or may not matter in a LEO involved shooting.


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Re: Picked up a new Glock 45 [Re: LoneRanger] #4884635 10/01/18 02:47 PM
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Carry a 21F everyday on the job, great pistols but not a fan of the general way Glock's look. Rumor has it around work we may be going back to 9mm's. I hope not.



More capacity and easier follow up shots. If you can shoot a 21F well you can shoot the G19/17/45 even better i am sure. Never heard any complaints from officers using proper duty ammo, like 124+P Gold Dots, 124+P HST or 124+P Critical Duty.


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Re: Picked up a new Glock 45 [Re: 2015_PSD] #4885299 10/02/18 09:15 AM
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Originally Posted by 2015_PSD
The caveat to the Gen5 is it all good if you like it and if you are only seeking 9MM. Unless something has been changed since it was released with the Gen5 changes in the locking block, it cannot be used in higher pressure calibers.


Originally Posted by 2015_PSD
Now with the fifth generation, the locking block pin has gone to live at the farm with the grip’s finger grooves. While this change might be a result of Glock improving the strength and design of the trigger bar and locking block components, we suspect that’s part of the story. Since Glock says the Gen5’s will only be offered in 9mm, the parts may not require the .40 cal reinforcement that came from the locking block pin.


Glock makes a .40 caliber Glock 22 on the 2 pin generation 5 frame. So apparently, they think the new 2 pin frame is just fine for .40 cal pressures. The locking block inside the gen 5 guns has 2 holes, for two pins, but obviously the frame only has one hole.

Sao Paulo Brazil police Glock 22 .40 with safety, generation 5
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Re: Picked up a new Glock 45 [Re: bubbatime] #4885739 10/02/18 06:00 PM
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The caveat to the Gen5 is it all good if you like it and if you are only seeking 9MM. Unless something has been changed since it was released with the Gen5 changes in the locking block, it cannot be used in higher pressure calibers.
Originally Posted by 2015_PSD
Now with the fifth generation, the locking block pin has gone to live at the farm with the grip’s finger grooves. While this change might be a result of Glock improving the strength and design of the trigger bar and locking block components, we suspect that’s part of the story. Since Glock says the Gen5’s will only be offered in 9mm, the parts may not require the .40 cal reinforcement that came from the locking block pin.
Glock makes a .40 caliber Glock 22 on the 2 pin generation 5 frame. So apparently, they think the new 2 pin frame is just fine for .40 cal pressures. The locking block inside the gen 5 guns has 2 holes, for two pins, but obviously the frame only has one hole. Sao Paulo Brazil police Glock 22 .40 with safety, generation 5
The proof will be in the pudding if they make it in 10MM or .357SIG. In the end, it matters not to me because as I said, the Gen 5 offers nothing that would make me move away from my Gen 4's. Enjoy your pistol.


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Re: Picked up a new Glock 45 [Re: Bottom_Feeder] #4894844 10/12/18 03:35 PM
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New forward slide serrations. Neither the 19 or 19X have that. Interesting.

They are releasing front serrations on their other two guns they just released as well. I dont know if this is a permanent change or not.

And no dumb finger hole in the grip for the mag. That's how my gen5 19 should have come from the factory instead of spending $30 for Pearce mag baseplates. Thanks a lot, Glock.

I finally took my gen 5 Glock 19 to the range. I must say I'm pretty disappointed at how uncomfortable the magwell cutout in the grip is even when using Pearce mag baseplates. They may actually make it worse. I guess I need to wrap my pinky finger with tape or band-aids or something next time. Lame.

Re: Picked up a new Glock 45 [Re: bubbatime] #4898685 10/17/18 12:46 PM
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Meh, another Glock that pretty much looks like all the other Glocks ever made.


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