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I wonder why #4868898 09/14/18 06:03 PM
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Just wondering why some manufacturers like Ford and others put on different filters at the factory than you can buy at the store or dealerships.
Eg. The motorcraft filters Ford suggest using are not what Ford puts on at the factory. At least not made the same. Is it just necessary for break in or something? Really just curious.

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Perhaps the filter has some tweaks to allow it to capture more particles during break in without becoming clogged?

I've not noticed this, but I'm curious now


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You can buy the same oil filter that Ford builds their cars with at the factory, you just have to buy a Wix filter not a Motorcraft.

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It may have something to do with assembly on the line and/or shipping the engine from assembly plant to assembly plant.

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Ford and others do this in case there is a warranty claim, they can prove that someone never changed the oil.

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"It may have something to do with assembly on the line and/or shipping the engine from assembly plant to assembly plant."

Saginawmale50 is correct, at least for some GM models.


Having been a member of a Traverse/Enclave/Acadia forum this question was asked. The answer was because the engines are shipped with the filter on, and the shipping "crate" was designed for a certain size filter. Replacement filters were different than the ones from the factory.

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Originally Posted by Ablebody
Just wondering why some manufacturers like Ford and others put on different filters at the factory than you can buy at the store or dealerships.
Eg. The motorcraft filters Ford suggest using are not what Ford puts on at the factory. At least not made the same. Is it just necessary for break in or something? Really just curious.


Subaru seems to come from the factory with a black Subaru filter but the ones I buy on Amazon are blue. And I am told the insides are not identical.

However its not something I loose sleep over.


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Of course, the tens of thousands of filters that Ford or GM or Chrysler buy for
their engine assembly plants could have a 'cost' factor involved as well as
break-in or assembly considerations.


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Agreed. It probably has more to do with whatever volume deal they can get from a manufacturer, just like any other part they source.

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Originally Posted by slacktide_bitog
Ford and others do this in case there is a warranty claim, they can prove that someone never changed the oil.


That's what a Ford dealer service manager told me. He said you'd be surprised how many lease vehicles come in with damaged engines only to find the factory oil and filter is still in the lease vehicle 30,000 miles later crzy. And the people claiming that they did regular oil and filter changes. Ugh, you just bought yourself an engine repair or replacement. I can guarantee it'll be the more expensive option since YOU'RE paying for it LOL.

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Originally Posted by slacktide_bitog
Ford and others do this in case there is a warranty claim, they can prove that someone never changed the oil.


Bingo!
By using an oil filter of a color and with labeling not otherwise available, a manufacturer can easily detect a case of its never having been changed in the event of an engine warranty claim.


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Some of the manufacturers put them on so tight and the oil change places skip changing the filter.


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I don't buy it... so the warranty claim can be denied just because the oil filter on the engine has the same part number as the one installed at the factory?
Or, are we saying the filter model installed at the factory 100% can NOT EVER be purchased by consumers, period?

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Ours have "Factory Installed" printed on them.

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Originally Posted by AVB
Ours have "Factory Installed" printed on them.


LOL then any Chevrolet Dealers ship should have it on their parts list and be willing to install it.


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