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Re: Pick a car stereo for me - nothing fancy needed [Re: Carmudgeon] #4856923 09/01/18 05:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Carmudgeon
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Thank you for your comments. I will consider it and probably replace both front and rear speakers. There is no plug-in replacement for the door-mirror mounted tweeters, so I'll ignore them.

A 5.25" speaker is the best that will fit in the door w/o a lot of cutting and altering, and custom grilles. I'll stick with that size though I understand your point. Coming home on Tuesday, I did some experimenting. Now knowing the front doors were only mid-woofers, I played with more rear fade and the sound clarity jumped dramatically. Also, I popped one of the rear grilles just to look at the rear pillar 4" speakers. When I did so, an "extra" paper tweeter cone fell out of the left one. Apparently, it had been in there since new and was a manufacturing error. That helped sound quality a lot, too!

Component tweeters almost always require some handiwork to fit into stock locations.

If Crutchfield says some 6.5" speakers will work, I'm inclined to believe them, and urge you to try. They wouldn't make such recommendations if it required a lot of work, esp. considering their target market can be considered largely neophytes. And if they don't fit, then they'll either help you, or take them back, which is what their higher pricing helps support.



Agreed.

Admittedly has been some time since I did components, but they typically include multiple mounting options and may take some figuring for best results. Even back in the day high end coaxial were coming close to low end component performance. There were even coaxial that had amiable tweeters.

If Crutchfield says a 6.5 will fit, it will fit. If it does not for some reason they will make it right. Iā€™m sure if you call them ahead of time they will give you details on what is required. It is common IME for Honda to mount a 5.25 in a 6.5 hole using a plastic adapter ring (I have no idea why)


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Re: Pick a car stereo for me - nothing fancy needed [Re: Oro_O] #4856943 09/01/18 06:14 AM
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I just bought this from Crutchfield, I will know how it works next week. The installation packet was free which included the power adapter for the antenna, wiring adapter and fascia. Not a bad deal.

https://www.crutchfield.com/S-LSKBYJfDF8N/p_105KDR895B/JVC-KD-R895BTS.html?avf=Y


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Re: Pick a car stereo for me - nothing fancy needed [Re: Oro_O] #4857442 09/01/18 07:40 PM
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Well done. For 120 bones, you gonna love it!


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Re: Pick a car stereo for me - nothing fancy needed [Re: Oro_O] #4857577 09/02/18 12:28 AM
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OK, more good information.

a) OK, I see Crutch. does say a 6/6.5" will fit with the factory grille. I will pop a grille off and check if that looks to be the case. If so, I'll go that way and not mind cutting and re-drilling some holes.

b) I see now what you meant re: air gap and will get some foam tape for that purpose if I can't find any in the garage.

Trav, that's about the same unit I was intending to get and have in my cart; the 990, which is a few dollars cheaper but spec'd absolutely identical. I have poured over the JVC specs on their website and for the life of me can't figure out the differences between the top several models; all the product information and features are identical. Very odd.

Re: Pick a car stereo for me - nothing fancy needed [Re: Oro_O] #4857632 09/02/18 05:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Oro_O
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Trav, that's about the same unit I was intending to get and have in my cart; the 990, which is a few dollars cheaper but spec'd absolutely identical. I have poured over the JVC specs on their website and for the life of me can't figure out the differences between the top several models; all the product information and features are identical. Very odd.


https://www.crutchfield.com/Product/CompareTo.aspx?g=300&compareItems=01|105KDR895B&compareItems=01|105KDR990B

It is the number of preouts and the preout voltage between those two.


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Re: Pick a car stereo for me - nothing fancy needed [Re: Oro_O] #4857638 09/02/18 05:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Oro_O
OK, more good information.

a) OK, I see Crutch. does say a 6/6.5" will fit with the factory grille. I will pop a grille off and check if that looks to be the case. If so, I'll go that way and not mind cutting and re-drilling some holes.

b) I see now what you meant re: air gap and will get some foam tape for that purpose if I can't find any in the garage.

Trav, that's about the same unit I was intending to get and have in my cart; the 990, which is a few dollars cheaper but spec'd absolutely identical. I have poured over the JVC specs on their website and for the life of me can't figure out the differences between the top several models; all the product information and features are identical. Very odd.


Tell me about it, I went through the same thing but in the end I decided this one does what I need and has a better 2 year warranty. I have halfway decent speakers in the car already and it sounds good to me so this should only make life better with the hands free calling and MP3 from USB and Iphone.

I get speakers here, being an outlet stock can change often.

http://www.bostonacoustics.com/US/Product/Pages/OutletProducts.aspx?CatId=OutletStore(BostonAcoustics_US)

I got the SR55 for the rear and SC55 for the front and modified the OE mounting to fit, they came out real nice with no significant air gap between the door panel and speaker.
IIRC I paid $200 for the whole business.


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Re: Pick a car stereo for me - nothing fancy needed [Re: DuckRyder] #4858190 09/02/18 06:27 PM
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Originally Posted by DuckRyder

It is the number of preouts and the preout voltage between those two.


Ah, got it. I was comparing it on the JVC website, and it was not showing it. I didn't try the Crutchfield comparison feature.

In fact, I know realize the JVC website was broken all last week when I was doing it, and only know is working as I just double checked, and it is showing completely different information than last week:

http://www.us.jvc.com/compare/?reg=K,K,K&model=KD-R990BTS,KD-RD99BTS,KD-R895BTS&lang=en,en,en&url=%2Fcar%2Findashreceivers%2Fkd_r990bts%2F,%2Fcar%2Findashreceivers%2Fkd_rd99bts%2F,%2Fcar%2Findashreceivers%2Fkd_r895bts%2F

Trav, I will check out those speaker options; thanks.

Re: Pick a car stereo for me - nothing fancy needed [Re: DuckRyder] #4858203 09/02/18 06:36 PM
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Originally Posted by DuckRyder
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Trav, that's about the same unit I was intending to get and have in my cart; the 990, which is a few dollars cheaper but spec'd absolutely identical. I have poured over the JVC specs on their website and for the life of me can't figure out the differences between the top several models; all the product information and features are identical. Very odd.


https://www.crutchfield.com/Product/CompareTo.aspx?g=300&compareItems=01|105KDR895B&compareItems=01|105KDR990B

It is the number of preouts and the preout voltage between those two.


Looks like Crutchfield made a mistake and gave the 895 a variable display color when both are white only.

Otherwise, it's just the pre-outs, which would make no difference if the OP isn't going to run an external amp.

Also curious how it says the warranty is 2-years when that was reserved for the Arsenal and Excelon lines.

Re: Pick a car stereo for me - nothing fancy needed [Re: Carmudgeon] #4858256 09/02/18 07:29 PM
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Also curious how it says the warranty is 2-years when that was reserved for the Arsenal and Excelon lines.


Actually, I was just coming back to edit my post to mention that. I noticed the inconsistency in the warranty information versus other dealers. Everywhere else it says the warranty on all these is one year. I even emailed JVC customer service the other day and asked, and they emailed back and said it was one year. Crutchfield is either personally offering an extended warranty, or have a big typo. I was going to clarify that with them when I ordered. Alternatively, trav, If that selling point was important to you, print out that website page at Crutchfield that shows they sold it to you on those terms in case it ever comes up.

Re: Pick a car stereo for me - nothing fancy needed [Re: Oro_O] #4858542 09/03/18 06:53 AM
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Thanks, that was not a primary decision maker over the others but I thought it was a good thing. the person I talked to at Crutchfield even quoted the 2 year warranty when I asked.
Not a deal breaker but I printed it to pdf anyway.

I like this and they do have a firmware update for it, so it seems they are addressing issues as they arise not just orphaning the product.

http://www.jvc.net/car/app/jvc_remote/


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Re: Pick a car stereo for me - nothing fancy needed [Re: Jimmy9190] #4859666 09/04/18 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Jimmy9190
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Al lot of aftermarket decks are nearly impossible to read or even see the display in sunlight. The other thing to look out for is how easy is it to adjust the sound or change tracks and make other adjustments while driving. You don't want to put the car in a ditch because you can't read the display or have to dive through three menus just to adjust the bass/treble or change to a different music folder.
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Exactly! Unfortunately, unless you personally play with a specific unit, you will never know if the display will be visible in mid-day afternoon while you have sunglasses on. At least for diving through multiple menus or un-intuitive interface is something you could pro-actively find out via user guide of the specific model pdf file. For example, when you press the only big round button on the stereo, instead of turning on or off the stereo, it goes in to setup mode :-(

For the display problem, the only viable solution is to get marine unit which are specifically designed to be able read in direct sunlight.

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