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Re: Pick a car stereo for me - nothing fancy needed [Re: Oro_O] #4851320 08/26/18 09:30 AM
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Crutchfield for sure.
Something with carplay will be a pretty good chunk of change.
CD in car audio is on it's way out. With portable hard drives so cheap, and free rip software, most people lean toward having every CD they have at their fingertips via MP3 or FLAC.
Crutchfield

Re: Pick a car stereo for me - nothing fancy needed [Re: Oro_O] #4851377 08/26/18 10:55 AM
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Get a double DIN radio, if it will fit. You will have a nice big screen for Apple Carplay smile

Re: Pick a car stereo for me - nothing fancy needed [Re: wallyuwl] #4851379 08/26/18 11:02 AM
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(you will want to buy wire twist connectors)

Please tell me you are joking.




Aside from your smart a** comment, these are what I am talking about. A lot easier and faster than crimping. I have done it both ways, many times crimping.

https://www.crutchfield.com/p_669PP500/Posi-Products-Car-Stereo-Wiring-Harness-Connectors.html


They don't look like a bad way to go although I have never used them. You may want to see if they have a adapter to plug into your original harness so you don't have to hack into it.

Edit: Like this one, they probably have them at the store that sells the radio also.

https://www.amazon.com/1996-1999-Harness-Install-Aftermarket-Stereo/dp/B01M1KDGMX

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Re: Pick a car stereo for me - nothing fancy needed [Re: Oro_O] #4851411 08/26/18 11:48 AM
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Nearly every car radio nowadays has at least one USB port to play MP3's, and a good many will now play FLAC files too. Changing colors is available on most good units, green should be an option, but the thing to look out for is being able to read the display in the daylight. Al lot of aftermarket decks are nearly impossible to read or even see the display in sunlight. The other thing to look out for is how easy is it to adjust the sound or change tracks and make other adjustments while driving. You don't want to put the car in a ditch because you can't read the display or have to dive through three menus just to adjust the bass/treble or change to a different music folder.


Crutchfield has the best customer service and support there is for car audio. If you have a problem, they will help you with it and their tech support staff are very good at what they do. Crutchfield's prices are higher than other online stores like Amazon, but they make up for it by providing free or very low priced installation parts. Amazon does not offer anywhere near the same customer support as Crutchfield does. Pioneer car audio usually has a good price, has great sound quality and generally is easy to operate. I never used the Posi products for wire connections. Solder and heat shrink or 3M Super 33+ is the most reliable method of making wire connections. Use Super 88+ if you live in a very cold climate. You can also buy crimp caps or butt connectors cheap on Amazon or pay a little more at the auto parts store, Walmart or Home Depot/Lowe's.


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Re: Pick a car stereo for me - nothing fancy needed [Re: Oro_O] #4851537 08/26/18 03:05 PM
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Crutchfield only.


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Re: Pick a car stereo for me - nothing fancy needed [Re: Oro_O] #4851595 08/26/18 03:58 PM
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I've used alpine, Kenwood/jvc,pioneer ,Sony...your exact budget listed, we could find you a model number. Cadence qr series speakers are dirt cheap off eBay/amazon at times....ives used them and the q series in dirt cheap budget builds with success.


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Re: Pick a car stereo for me - nothing fancy needed [Re: Oro_O] #4851660 08/26/18 05:13 PM
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Re: Pick a car stereo for me - nothing fancy needed [Re: JeffKeryk] #4851752 08/26/18 06:56 PM
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Originally Posted By: JeffKeryk
Hey - did anyone mention Crutchfield?
If it were my car, I would install a double din Andriod/Apple unit.
Kenwood is great stuff; they bought JVC a few years ago.
JVC is great and is cheaper.
When they have refurbs you can save a little more.
You will find your factory speakers sound better with one of these units.
Have fun!


I have a JVC Arsenal something or other in my Mustang which I really like. Its a much older unit now a days but performs well with good adjustability. Not the most ergonomic for advanced EQ functions, though.


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Re: Pick a car stereo for me - nothing fancy needed [Re: Oro_O] #4851894 08/26/18 10:27 PM
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So lots of good advice here.

I will put it in myself, and I had not seen those "posi-twist" connectors before, either. I am old-school enough I had planned on just tinning and soldering them, but hey, that might be easier!

So Crutchfield looks easy to deal with; I hadn't realized how easy it was to sort by features and should have figured it would be that way. I haven't used them in ages, but did so a few times in the 90s. I see some JVC units starting around $100 that have all I want, and I've had good satisfaction from all JVC products I've ever bought; sounds good!

I am thinking of speakers, as mentioned. The vehicle has six speakers:
a) 2x little domes in door mounts over the rear-view mirror anchors,
b) a 5 1/4" woofer in the bottom of each front door, then
c) 2 x 4" speakers in the very rear pillars by the cargo door.

I am thinking of replacing just the rear pillar ones with decent 4" 2-way speakers as I imagine that would be the most bang-for-buck approach vs. changing the tiny tweeter or the low-mounted woofers. Once I figure out if that's worth it/adequate enough, I'll order stuff from Crutchfield I believe.

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Re: Pick a car stereo for me - nothing fancy needed [Re: Trav] #4854864 08/29/18 08:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Trav
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Originally Posted by Colt45ws
Originally Posted by wallyuwl
(you will want to buy wire twist connectors)

Please tell me you are joking.




Aside from your smart a** comment, these are what I am talking about. A lot easier and faster than crimping. I have done it both ways, many times crimping.

https://www.crutchfield.com/p_669PP500/Posi-Products-Car-Stereo-Wiring-Harness-Connectors.html


They don't look like a bad way to go although I have never used them. You may want to see if they have a adapter to plug into your original harness so you don't have to hack into it.

Edit: Like this one, they probably have them at the store that sells the radio also.

https://www.amazon.com/1996-1999-Harness-Install-Aftermarket-Stereo/dp/B01M1KDGMX

These type adapters that hook 8nto the vehicles wiring are included from Crutchfield. But they still need to be crimped/soldered/etc to the harness coming from the head unit. This is where the posi couplers I linked to come in

Re: Pick a car stereo for me - nothing fancy needed [Re: Oro_O] #4855008 08/29/18 10:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Oro_O


I am thinking of speakers, as mentioned. The vehicle has six speakers:
a) 2x little domes in door mounts over the rear-view mirror anchors,
b) a 5 1/4" woofer in the bottom of each front door, then
c) 2 x 4" speakers in the very rear pillars by the cargo door.

I am thinking of replacing just the rear pillar ones with decent 4" 2-way speakers as I imagine that would be the most bang-for-buck approach vs. changing the tiny tweeter or the low-mounted woofers. Once I figure out if that's worth it/adequate enough, I'll order stuff from Crutchfield I believe.


Replace the front speaker(s) if you do anything at all.. Rear speakers only serve to help provide some fill, and not much else, especially with only 4" drivers at the very rear of a large volume interior. Front speakers, where you, the driver sits, should always be the first priority to upgrade.

A 5.25" driver will only produce midbass frequencies; it's not a woofer by any means. For better sound, choose any 6.5" option that Crutchfield says will fit.

If the stock system isn't too complicated (and it doesn't sound like it is), and is sending a full-range signal to the lower door driver, you can even substitute a new coaxial speaker and just disconnect the stock sailplane tweeters. Replacing everything in the front with a component system is more work, and has higher power demands, but is also an option.

Make sure the speaker is sealed against the mounting plane of the door, and there aren't any air gaps. If you want to get a bit fancier, apply some sound deadening material to that area.

The old saying about there being no substitute for engine displacement also applies in large part to speaker sizes.

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Replace the front speaker(s) if you do anything at all.. Rear speakers only serve to help provide some fill, and not much else, especially with only 4" drivers at the very rear of a large volume interior. Front speakers, where you, the driver sits, should always be the first priority to upgrade...


Thank you for your comments. I will consider it and probably replace both front and rear speakers. There is no plug-in replacement for the door-mirror mounted tweeters, so I'll ignore them.

A 5.25" speaker is the best that will fit in the door w/o a lot of cutting and altering, and custom grilles. I'll stick with that size though I understand your point. Coming home on Tuesday, I did some experimenting. Now knowing the front doors were only mid-woofers, I played with more rear fade and the sound clarity jumped dramatically. Also, I popped one of the rear grilles just to look at the rear pillar 4" speakers. When I did so, an "extra" paper tweeter cone fell out of the left one. Apparently, it had been in there since new and was a manufacturing error. That helped sound quality a lot, too!

By "sealed against the mounting plane" do you mean have an acoustic baffle behind, like stretching some PE sheeting to cut down on feed back bouncing off the outer door? Or more of a baffle? Effectively making an enclosure? I'll do as you suggest but am unsure what this is (I'll google it to educate myself).

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I've had luck with Pioneer, Alpine and Kenwood. My pick would be a sub-$100 deck from either as long as it has Bluetooth. I've seen the older version of this Alpine go for $125 at the local car audio shop: https://www.alpine-usa.com/product/view/cde-172bt/

Rarely anyone breaks into cars these days with aftermarket radios installed. One reason being is that aftermarket decks don't blend in well with newer cars and everything OEM is tightly integrated into the car. Back when I was growing up, Pioneer SuperTuner and Alpine decks were a hot commodity at the flea market.

Re: Pick a car stereo for me - nothing fancy needed [Re: Oro_O] #4856090 08/31/18 06:20 AM
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Thank you for your comments. I will consider it and probably replace both front and rear speakers. There is no plug-in replacement for the door-mirror mounted tweeters, so I'll ignore them.

My CR-V has factory tweeters in the dash and there aren't any aftermarket tweeters that will swap right in. Actually, since my car is the base model, there weren't any factory tweeters installed; it had the grilles in the dash with nothing behind them. Anyway, I was upgrading the speakers and I figured since I have a factory location for tweeters, I might as well use them. So I bought a set of component speakers with separate tweeters and installed them. Now like I said, these did not directly bolt in. I had to modify the mounting cup and I ended up mounting them by epoxy-gluing the mounting cups directly to the factory speaker grilles. It was kind of a pain, but man it was worth it! They sound fantastic. My point is, even if there isn't any direct bolt-in upgrade, you can probably make an aftermarket set work with a little modification and it will look factory, but sound way better.


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Re: Pick a car stereo for me - nothing fancy needed [Re: exranger06] #4856715 08/31/18 07:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Oro_O

Thank you for your comments. I will consider it and probably replace both front and rear speakers. There is no plug-in replacement for the door-mirror mounted tweeters, so I'll ignore them.

A 5.25" speaker is the best that will fit in the door w/o a lot of cutting and altering, and custom grilles. I'll stick with that size though I understand your point. Coming home on Tuesday, I did some experimenting. Now knowing the front doors were only mid-woofers, I played with more rear fade and the sound clarity jumped dramatically. Also, I popped one of the rear grilles just to look at the rear pillar 4" speakers. When I did so, an "extra" paper tweeter cone fell out of the left one. Apparently, it had been in there since new and was a manufacturing error. That helped sound quality a lot, too!

Component tweeters almost always require some handiwork to fit into stock locations.

If Crutchfield says some 6.5" speakers will work, I'm inclined to believe them, and urge you to try. They wouldn't make such recommendations if it required a lot of work, esp. considering their target market can be considered largely neophytes. And if they don't fit, then they'll either help you, or take them back, which is what their higher pricing helps support.

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By "sealed against the mounting plane" do you mean have an acoustic baffle behind, like stretching some PE sheeting to cut down on feed back bouncing off the outer door? Or more of a baffle? Effectively making an enclosure? I'll do as you suggest but am unsure what this is (I'll google it to educate myself).

When you mount the drivers, you want to make sure there aren't any gaps around the perimeter between the speaker frame and the surface it's mounted to, allowing air to pass. Some manufacturers even include a little bit of sealing tape with their products. If not, some weatherstripping can be used instead.

Those foam cup baffles, both stock and aftermarket, also provide that function, but they're mostly to protect the speaker from the elements. But by sharply reducing the volume of space behind that speaker, they can actually hurt sound quality by not allowing the fuller volume of the door cavity to be used. Some people either cut openings in them or remove them altogether.

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