Honda break in oil....myth?
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In our family we have Honda's. Some run the FF until the first OCI, others dump it within the first 1,000km (600 miles). Both seem to have long engine lives either way.
Do what makes you feel happy!
Do what makes you feel happy!
3K miles max and then drain / refill oil.
We could be civil here.
Originally Posted By: StevieC
In our family we have Honda's. Some run the FF until the first OCI, others dump it within the first 1,000km (600 miles). Both seem to have long engine lives either way.
Do what makes you feel happy!
LOL great feed back Stevie after all they have filters on those cars for a reason don't they.
In our family we have Honda's. Some run the FF until the first OCI, others dump it within the first 1,000km (600 miles). Both seem to have long engine lives either way.
Do what makes you feel happy!
LOL great feed back Stevie after all they have filters on those cars for a reason don't they.
Just real world experiences with some Honda's in the family.
JHZR2
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https://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php/topics/4096405/2015_Honda_Accord_Hybrid_Facto
You decide if this looks like something unique in what is one of their most modern, 0w-16 rated engines.
And in case a more standard variant is desired to discuss, how about this:
http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php/topics/3939600/2014_Honda_Odyssey_FF_-_5161_m
You decide, OP!
You decide if this looks like something unique in what is one of their most modern, 0w-16 rated engines.
And in case a more standard variant is desired to discuss, how about this:
http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php/topics/3939600/2014_Honda_Odyssey_FF_-_5161_m
You decide, OP!
I've bought two Honda vans new, one in '03 and one in '09. I followed the manual and ran the factory fill the full change interval on both, then went to Mobil-1 0W20.
The '03 is on a 5000 mile schedule, the '09 follows the maintenance minder. 195,000 on the '03, 140,000 on the '09. No engine problems in either one.
The '03 is on a 5000 mile schedule, the '09 follows the maintenance minder. 195,000 on the '03, 140,000 on the '09. No engine problems in either one.
Q: My Honda is equipped with break-in oil, should I change it early?
A: No. To ensure proper engine break-in, the factory-fill engine oil needs to remain in the engine until the first scheduled maintenance interval.
The factory fill oil is the same as Honda Service Replacement Oil. The difference is the Molybdenum lubricant that is applied to specific internal engine components.
This is the answer that comes from Honda. But its your vehicle, so you can do as you choose.
A: No. To ensure proper engine break-in, the factory-fill engine oil needs to remain in the engine until the first scheduled maintenance interval.
The factory fill oil is the same as Honda Service Replacement Oil. The difference is the Molybdenum lubricant that is applied to specific internal engine components.
This is the answer that comes from Honda. But its your vehicle, so you can do as you choose.
Ran it five thousand and some change and drained it.
Just don't drain before 2000 then put in Supertech and add LiquiMoly additive.
Yosemite Sam says, 'That ain't the right, moly buddy!'
Yosemite Sam says, 'That ain't the right, moly buddy!'
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We bought a 2007 CR-V new, had about 3 miles on it. I ran it 5k miles on the factory fill.
Sadly, the vehicle was hit in the rear in March 2016 and the person's insurance company totaled it. It had 101k miles on it. I was doing 10k mile intervals and it never used a drop of oil in 100k miles. Probably the last of the great Hondas ever made. That thing was never in the shop for anything non-maintenance related.
Sadly, the vehicle was hit in the rear in March 2016 and the person's insurance company totaled it. It had 101k miles on it. I was doing 10k mile intervals and it never used a drop of oil in 100k miles. Probably the last of the great Hondas ever made. That thing was never in the shop for anything non-maintenance related.
Originally Posted By: JHZR2
https://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php/topics/4096405/2015_Honda_Accord_Hybrid_Facto
You decide if this looks like something unique in what is one of their most modern, 0w-16 rated engines.
And in case a more standard variant is desired to discuss, how about this:
http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php/topics/3939600/2014_Honda_Odyssey_FF_-_5161_m
You decide, OP!
It wouldn't take me half a heartbeat to decide. I want that out of there yesterday.
https://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php/topics/4096405/2015_Honda_Accord_Hybrid_Facto
You decide if this looks like something unique in what is one of their most modern, 0w-16 rated engines.
And in case a more standard variant is desired to discuss, how about this:
http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php/topics/3939600/2014_Honda_Odyssey_FF_-_5161_m
You decide, OP!
It wouldn't take me half a heartbeat to decide. I want that out of there yesterday.
Originally Posted By: Trav
Originally Posted By: JHZR2
https://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php/topics/4096405/2015_Honda_Accord_Hybrid_Facto
You decide if this looks like something unique in what is one of their most modern, 0w-16 rated engines.
And in case a more standard variant is desired to discuss, how about this:
http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php/topics/3939600/2014_Honda_Odyssey_FF_-_5161_m
You decide, OP!
It wouldn't take me half a heartbeat to decide. I want that out of there yesterday.
Yesterday sounds about right.
Originally Posted By: JHZR2
https://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php/topics/4096405/2015_Honda_Accord_Hybrid_Facto
You decide if this looks like something unique in what is one of their most modern, 0w-16 rated engines.
And in case a more standard variant is desired to discuss, how about this:
http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php/topics/3939600/2014_Honda_Odyssey_FF_-_5161_m
You decide, OP!
It wouldn't take me half a heartbeat to decide. I want that out of there yesterday.
Yesterday sounds about right.
Not a myth, there is break in oil in it, and don't change it early!
I guess you dont like to read the thread.
Originally Posted By: bud
Q: My Honda is equipped with break-in oil, should I change it early?
A: No. To ensure proper engine break-in, the factory-fill engine oil needs to remain in the engine until the first scheduled maintenance interval.
The factory fill oil is the same as Honda Service Replacement Oil. The difference is the Molybdenum lubricant that is applied to specific internal engine components.
This is the answer that comes from Honda. But its your vehicle, so you can do as you choose.
There is no break in oil used, its a myth.
Edit: The moly does very little after the main and rod bearings get pressure lubrication.
Originally Posted By: bud
Q: My Honda is equipped with break-in oil, should I change it early?
A: No. To ensure proper engine break-in, the factory-fill engine oil needs to remain in the engine until the first scheduled maintenance interval.
The factory fill oil is the same as Honda Service Replacement Oil. The difference is the Molybdenum lubricant that is applied to specific internal engine components.
This is the answer that comes from Honda. But its your vehicle, so you can do as you choose.
There is no break in oil used, its a myth.
Edit: The moly does very little after the main and rod bearings get pressure lubrication.
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Had two Hondas in my life.
One New RL went with the FF
until first MM OC.Never did that
on any new car before.
Second RL bought at 5k from a
Honda dealer who gave it a change.
Both did ok as far as I can say.
If you feel better change it and either use a high only oil or
an additive.
Your going to get either a yay or
nay every other reply.
Going to have to go with your gut.
Good luck with new car!
One New RL went with the FF
until first MM OC.Never did that
on any new car before.
Second RL bought at 5k from a
Honda dealer who gave it a change.
Both did ok as far as I can say.
If you feel better change it and either use a high only oil or
an additive.
Your going to get either a yay or
nay every other reply.
Going to have to go with your gut.
Good luck with new car!
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Originally Posted By: Bud
The factory fill oil is the same as Honda Service Replacement Oil. The difference is the Molybdenum lubricant that is applied to specific internal engine components.
What if the factory fill were dumped early and replaced with a dedicated break in lube? After all, ZDDP is a more common AW additive in the first place. Of course, that's taking Honda's argument at face value.
The factory fill oil is the same as Honda Service Replacement Oil. The difference is the Molybdenum lubricant that is applied to specific internal engine components.
What if the factory fill were dumped early and replaced with a dedicated break in lube? After all, ZDDP is a more common AW additive in the first place. Of course, that's taking Honda's argument at face value.
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