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 effect of chinese ownership of volvo
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08/12/18 12:49 PM
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edwardh1
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anyone knowledgeable on this?
These products are all new every year?? They are a revolution!!! Razor blades, mens shirts, TVs, wiper blades, gutter guards, hearing aids... according to the ads. But also all new last year
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Re: effect of chinese ownership of volvo
[Re: FermeLaPorte]
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08/12/18 01:06 PM
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We're talking about Geely-owned Volvo, not Fors-owned Volvo.
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Re: effect of chinese ownership of volvo
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08/12/18 01:07 PM
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pbm
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I don't know about the effect on the cars...but the effect on me is that I wouldn't buy one...
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Re: effect of chinese ownership of volvo
[Re: edwardh1]
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08/12/18 01:07 PM
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anyone knowledgeable on this? Go to a showroom. Theyres some of the nicest cars you can buy today, period.
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Re: effect of chinese ownership of volvo
[Re: edwardh1]
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08/12/18 01:15 PM
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About 6 months ago I asked that question to the salesperson (combined Hyundai/Volvo dealer). Not just ownership either, some models will be built in China. We both agreed it will appear to cheapen the product line, some people (like myself) will not purchase a vehicle made in Chine, same for tires. In short, IMO it will result in fewer sales once the general public knows that it is Chinese owned and some models actually built there. Cadillac and Buick are also building some models in China so one has to look at the country of assembly when buying new.
As a country China owns too much of America, sending profits from Volvo back to them is not something I wish to do
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Re: effect of chinese ownership of volvo
[Re: Spector]
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08/12/18 01:27 PM
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About 6 months ago I asked that question to the salesperson (combined Hyundai/Volvo dealer). Not just ownership either, some models will be built in China. We both agreed it will appear to cheapen the product line, some people (like myself) will not purchase a vehicle made in Chine, same for tires. In short, IMO it will result in fewer sales once the general public knows that it is Chinese owned and some models actually built there. Cadillac and Buick are also building some models in China so one has to look at the country of assembly when buying new.
As a country China owns too much of America, sending profits from Volvo back to them is not something I wish to do
I think as the US faces off against China and manufacturing returns to the US, there are going to be options in regards to COO and most people will choose to support the US over China. No one likes doing business with them. China will always need a western name on their products to sell them. They're not going to be the next Japan or South Korea.
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Re: effect of chinese ownership of volvo
[Re: edwardh1]
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08/12/18 01:32 PM
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Bought them eight years ago.
Chinese made cars are coming. Aluminum and steel cheaper over there as is energy and labor.
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Re: effect of chinese ownership of volvo
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08/12/18 01:34 PM
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I have a co-worker who has only bought Volvos for 20 years and my guess is that he'd probably opt for a new Chinese-owned one over a Belgian-built one he had in the mid-2000s.
Apparently, though it's model-specific, my understanding is that the new models are generally reliable ( average ) but have recurring issues similar to previous ones like axle/suspension and electrical issues. I've never owned an Asian vehicle that's had electrical issues but every German or European car I've owned eventually had gremlins...so there's almost an expectation for me. The C30 is supposed to be much more problem-free than the XC70/90 series so I'm not sure of COO plays into that or not.
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Re: effect of chinese ownership of volvo
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08/12/18 01:45 PM
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I have a co-worker who has only bought Volvos for 20 years and my guess is that he'd probably opt for a new Chinese-owned one over a Belgian-built one he had in the mid-2000s.
Apparently, though it's model-specific, my understanding is that the new models are generally reliable ( average ) but have recurring issues similar to previous ones like axle/suspension and electrical issues. I've never owned an Asian vehicle that's had electrical issues but every German or European car I've owned eventually had gremlins...so there's almost an expectation for me. The C30 is supposed to be much more problem-free than the XC70/90 series so I'm not sure of COO plays into that or not. for me "average" does not work, you need the Japanese level as a minimum. My Japanese cars have have not had electrical issues. I think Volvo did before Ford, and mabe still. Im looking for a car with comfy seats and thought Volvo used to have those
These products are all new every year?? They are a revolution!!! Razor blades, mens shirts, TVs, wiper blades, gutter guards, hearing aids... according to the ads. But also all new last year
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Re: effect of chinese ownership of volvo
[Re: edwardh1]
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08/12/18 01:45 PM
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I doubt that most buyers are aware of who owns the company, or where the vehicle is built. My neighbor recently got a Buick Envision for himself. His wife has a Buick Encore. I mentioned to him that now he has a Chinese built Buick sitting next to a Korean built Buick.
He nor his wife had any idea that their Buick's were not US manufactured!
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Re: effect of chinese ownership of volvo
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08/12/18 01:53 PM
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I doubt that most buyers are aware of who owns the company, or where the vehicle is built. My neighbor recently got a Buick Envision for himself. His wife has a Buick Encore. I mentioned to him that now he has a Chinese built Buick sitting next to a Korean built Buick.
He nor his wife had any idea that their Buick's were not US manufactured! Interesting but you see, they couldn’t tell a difference.
If you want the job done right......do it yourself.
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Re: effect of chinese ownership of volvo
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08/12/18 01:58 PM
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Too early to tell.
Ask again in 5 years.
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Re: effect of chinese ownership of volvo
[Re: ls973800]
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08/12/18 01:59 PM
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They replaced the Swedish-made SWB S90 with the LWB Chinese sedan and didn't lower the price one dollar, even though it costs them much less to build it in China. The Chinese S90 shouldn't be priced higher than $15k
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Re: effect of chinese ownership of volvo
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08/12/18 02:12 PM
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They replaced the Swedish-made SWB S90 with the LWB Chinese sedan and didn't lower the price one dollar, even though it costs them much less to build it in China. The Chinese S90 shouldn't be priced higher than $15k
$15K in China?
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