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Once a year changes #4818153
07/19/18 12:45 PM
07/19/18 12:45 PM
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For My 2006 Ford Mustang GT. I only drive it about 5000 miles a year and it sits all winter. No short trips either. I normally use Pennzoil platinum And change it once a year. Never done an oil analysis but Would the mobil 1 annual protection be better for my application?
Thanks

Re: Once a year changes [Re: jay929] #4818160
07/19/18 12:55 PM
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Id doubt itd make any difference.


2007 Corolla Red Pearl 155k miles
PP 0w20 & ST 4967

Re: Once a year changes [Re: jay929] #4818162
07/19/18 12:57 PM
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Sitting in the garage all winter would require an oil high in rust inhibitors. Not trying to start an oil war. I have experience with Amsoil having a great rust inhibitor package.

Re: Once a year changes [Re: jay929] #4818165
07/19/18 01:02 PM
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I wouldn't even bother changing it every year. No short trips means you can go for a long time, probably 10K easily on a quality normal-drain synthetic like PP.

You could just use dino and a filter appropriate for 5k OCIs, no sense wasting the money on a fancy boutique oil for a 5k OCI.


03 Jetta AWP/09A 205k kms
Edge 0W40 + Mann 719/30
Re: Once a year changes [Re: jay929] #4818173
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You can use any oil that meets the specs for your Ford. Rust inhibitors are not needed nor is a boutique oil like Amsoil needed. During the winter, run the engine periodically to keep things charged up.


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Re: Once a year changes [Re: jay929] #4818177
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I would only change the oil right before you store it for the winter.


2010 Honda Civic LX
Valvoline SynPower 5w-20 - Napa Gold oil filter
59,992 miles
Re: Once a year changes [Re: jay929] #4818179
07/19/18 01:16 PM
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You should put it away with fresh oil in it, as that does not leave any acid molecules in the bearings, so I recommend keeping to once a year, as you get ready to put it away.

As for which synthetic, it really won't matter.

Re: Once a year changes [Re: jay929] #4818194
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For 5,000 miles a year ANY oil would perform just fine. Dyno or syn. No need for exotic "long drain" oil.


2005 Ranger 3.0 - M1 HM 5w-30/Motorcraft - (85+K)
2000 4Runner 3.4 - M1 HM 10w-30/Toyota - (250+K)
1997 B2500 Van 3.9 - M1 HM 10w-30/Mopar - (175+K)
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Re: Once a year changes [Re: jay929] #4818206
07/19/18 01:59 PM
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I run Group I dino for a year so...


1975 Ford Capri II Ghia 3000 V6, - Shell Helix HX3 20W-50 w/ 20% Rimula R4X 15W-40 HDEO.

1988 Ford Escort Mk4 Xr3i Cabrio, - Shell Rimula R4X 15W-40, w/ 30% Helix 3 20W-50.

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Re: Once a year changes [Re: jay929] #4818223
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I agree with maxdustington. Run the synthetic for two years or switch to regular oil with annual oil changes. There's no need to waste resources.

Re: Once a year changes [Re: PimTac] #4818230
07/19/18 02:35 PM
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Originally Posted By: PimTac
You can use any oil that meets the specs for your Ford. Rust inhibitors are not needed nor is a boutique oil like Amsoil needed. During the winter, run the engine periodically to keep things charged up.


I would not start the engine unless you plan to get the engine and exhaust up to operating temp for 15-20 minutes. Otherwise you will get condensation. Get one of the better BatteryMinders that does high and low temp compensation and leave that on all winter.


2015 Subaru Forester 2.5 engine/CVT
2015 Ford F250 w/Powerstroke
2016 Subaru Crosstrek CVT (wife's)
Re: Once a year changes [Re: jay929] #4818284
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what you are doing sounds reasonable on PP. I second changing right before storage to remove acid.


I urge people not to wait 100K to change out the fluid in their transfer case units. -Kestas
Re: Once a year changes [Re: jay929] #4818297
07/19/18 05:13 PM
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PP for 5k miles and 1 year should be fine. No need to change brands over that.

The best time to change the oil is a bit before storage, but if your TBN is fine (and it will be given your situation) then it's job is to neutralize the acid in the oil (driving or not driving).

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Re: Once a year changes [Re: jay929] #4818304
07/19/18 05:24 PM
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In my opinion, you need to worry about the seals staying pliable not engine wear.


Without data you're just another person with an opinion. W. E. Deming

2003 Corolla 250,000 miles (RIP)
2004 Corolla 125,000 miles
2004 Rav4 370,000 miles
2015 Camry 70,000 miles
Re: Once a year changes [Re: Leo99] #4818309
07/19/18 05:31 PM
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Originally Posted By: Leo99
In my opinion, you need to worry about the seals staying pliable not engine wear.


He's driving it 5000 miles a year though, not 500, so I don't think he'll have a problem in that regard. Other than the winter months, it doesn't sound like his car goes very long between being taken out for a drive. I know of quite a few Corvette owners that barely put any miles on their cars per year (under 2000) and they never have any issues.


2018 Corvette, 9k, M1 ESP Formula 5w30 & NAPA Gold
2006 Civic EX Coupe, 148k, PUP 5w20 & Fram Ultra
2010 BMW 328i X-Drive,110k, GC 0w40 & Fram Ultra

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