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Mystery Oil #4817172
07/18/18 10:52 AM
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Any thoughts smile





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Re: Mystery Oil [Re: Zee09] #4817183
07/18/18 11:09 AM
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Is that mmo or really mystery oil?


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Re: Mystery Oil [Re: Zee09] #4817186
07/18/18 11:16 AM
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Real Mystery motor oil given to a friend. No markings at all on a 55 gallon drum.
Was from a plant closing. VOA of course


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Re: Mystery Oil [Re: Zee09] #4817188
07/18/18 11:17 AM
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Well its not NAKED MMO, masybe oil with MMO in it though, the phos is off the charts "Illegal"

Maybe a Trailer Trash Frankenbrew with 75w90 gear oil, Mobil_1 5w30 and MMO smile

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Re: Mystery Oil [Re: Zee09] #4817191
07/18/18 11:20 AM
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If it smelled minty sweet, Id run it in my mower smile

Last edited by ARCOgraphite; 07/18/18 11:20 AM.

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Re: Mystery Oil [Re: Zee09] #4817210
07/18/18 11:43 AM
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Well, based off the cSt 100C being 9.4 I'd say a heavy 5w20 weight oil or a light 5w30 weight oil.. but without the cSt 40C number, it's hard to say..

Good Moly and Boron numbers ... but that Phosphorus figure.. WHOAH.. That's not any kind of standard motor oil that I can think of. Heck, that's even 3x what HDEOs are allowed


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Re: Mystery Oil [Re: Zee09] #4817233
07/18/18 12:26 PM
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Rustproofing/penetrating oil? Some of the older rustproofing/penetrating oils had a large amount of phos to attack rust scale and moly for friction reduction.

i would not run it in any modern engine for sure. shocked


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Re: Mystery Oil [Re: Zee09] #4817240
07/18/18 12:31 PM
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Strange to me that the phosphorus is so high and the zinc is not, suggests to me it is not motor oil.


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Re: Mystery Oil [Re: Virtus_Probi] #4817299
07/18/18 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted By: Virtus_Probi
Strange to me that the phosphorus is so high and the zinc is not, suggests to me it is not motor oil.

That was my thought as well. Maybe an antiwear hydraulic fluid?

Re: Mystery Oil [Re: Zee09] #4817331
07/18/18 01:49 PM
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cSt puts it at a 20 weight though, would hydraulic fluid be that thick? Could it be a turbine oil?



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Re: Mystery Oil [Re: LoneRanger] #4817370
07/18/18 02:22 PM
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Originally Posted By: LoneRanger
cSt puts it at a 20 weight though, would hydraulic fluid be that thick? Could it be a turbine oil?

Depending on the VI, an ISO 68 to ISO 100 hydraulic fluid could easily have a 100C vis at 9.4 cSt.

I may be wrong about this since it's out of my area, but I don't think a turbine oil would have the zinc in it.

Re: Mystery Oil [Re: Zee09] #4817399
07/18/18 02:57 PM
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Anybody ever hear of neutral phosphorus?


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Re: Mystery Oil [Re: Zee09] #4817484
07/18/18 05:33 PM
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Neutral or not, if any of it gets into the combustion chamber and burned, it's going to find its way into the Cat.. and that means someone's going to have a bad time.


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Re: Mystery Oil [Re: SirTanon] #4817500
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Has me wondering as a Trib I know who has been at it for 38 years said that the neutral non acidic phosphorus would have no effect on cats and said this was probably a heavy 20 specially made for the company. He said he would have no issue using this in a new car. Me? I don't have it but I'm put off using it in anything because I don't know what it is.But it's not mine.

I'd like to really know why neutral phos would not harm anything.
He told me that it was most likely a boutique oil as there's very few sources for that phos.


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Re: Mystery Oil [Re: Zee09] #4817641
07/18/18 08:59 PM
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It won't make a bit of difference if the phosphorus containing compound is neutral, basic or acidic when it gets into the catalytic converter.


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