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How far would you go? Ford 2.5L, 80% long highway #4811216
07/11/18 11:29 AM
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I'm feeling guilty the Valvoline SynPower (D1G2 formula) in my Escape is at about 7400 miles but I've got two more back to back rentals for about a month so depending on how much they drive it'll end up being like 10-15k? Either tell me I'm doing something awful or tell me it will be ok and I have nothing to worry about...

This vehicle has seem some city driving, I'd estimate 20%, but most of it has been long highway trips (and I mean long, like SF Bay Area to LA and back type of stuff). I did top up, it was down about half a quart after about 7k miles) so it's exactly at the full mark on the dipstick.

Wix oil filter if it matters (standard, not XP). And yes, I'll definitely get a Blackstone report on this run! I have Royal Purple HPS for next time around, so we'll see how that compares.

Last edited by dogememe; 07/11/18 11:31 AM.

2010 Ford Escape 2.5 ~94K Miles: Royal Purple 5W-30 + Wix 51348
2008 Ford Crown Vic P71 4.6 ~167K Miles: AMSOIL SS 0W-30 + Wix 51372
1995 Chevy Silverado 5.7 ~277K Miles: Delo 10W-30 + ACDelco PF52
Re: How far would you go? Ford 2.5L, 80% long highway [Re: dogememe] #4811223
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Originally Posted By: dogememe
And yes, I'll definitely get a Blackstone report on this run!
Instead of getting the UOA at the end of this run, get it done now. This should shed some light on whether it's ok to keep going or not.

But my guess is you will be fine, unless there is something wrong with your engine.


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'15 Q5 3.0T (Edge 5W-40)
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Re: How far would you go? Ford 2.5L, 80% long highway [Re: dogememe] #4811230
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Not clear on what you're saying. Your car? Rental car? Are you renting it out to someone else? Please clarify.

FWIW - I have the same Ford 2.5L engine in my Fusion. I regularly do 7,500 mile OCIs, and my driving is about 90% highway, at 70-75mph, in Phoenix (hot and dusty). I've gone longer too, on full syn, but most of my OCIs are synthetic blend.

The Ford 2.5L is a very durable engine, so if you're asking if you can do 7,500 mile (or more) OCIs on a full synthetic with a good filter, with that kind of driving, then I'd say the answer is very likely yes. Really depends on how hard of a driver the person doing the driving is.

Also, make sure the 6F35 trans in that Escape is current on its Mercon LV fluid.. if it's been more than 30,000 miles since its last drain & fill, I'd do it ASAP.


2010 Ford Fusion SE - 2.5 liter/6F35 Trans - 271,000mi
2014 Nissan Altima SL - 2.5 liter/CVT - 62,000mi
Re: How far would you go? Ford 2.5L, 80% long highway [Re: dogememe] #4811232
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One hour for peace of mind. I would change it.


Cannot see signatures any longer so it doesn’t matter.
Re: How far would you go? Ford 2.5L, 80% long highway [Re: SirTanon] #4811237
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Originally Posted By: SirTanon
Not clear on what you're saying. Your car? Rental car? Are you renting it out to someone else? Please clarify.


He's renting the car out on Turo. That used to be in his signature but has since been removed.

https://turo.com/

Re: How far would you go? Ford 2.5L, 80% long highway [Re: PimTac] #4811239
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Originally Posted By: PimTac
One hour for peace of mind. I would change it.


+1, as fas renters go I'd opt for severe service schedule.

Re: How far would you go? Ford 2.5L, 80% long highway [Re: SatinSilver] #4811254
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Originally Posted By: SatinSilver
Originally Posted By: SirTanon
Not clear on what you're saying. Your car? Rental car? Are you renting it out to someone else? Please clarify.


He's renting the car out on Turo. That used to be in his signature but has since been removed.

https://turo.com/


Ah.. yeah. Not familiar with them, but his question makes more sense now. Personally, I'd feel VERY uncomfortable with relative strangers driving my car for any length of time, let alone long stretches.. So based on that, I agree - change the oil now. There's no telling how hard the renters are going to be on the car. The 2.5 is a workhorse engine, but hard driving will break that oil down. Better to start with fresh oil in the sump.


2010 Ford Fusion SE - 2.5 liter/6F35 Trans - 271,000mi
2014 Nissan Altima SL - 2.5 liter/CVT - 62,000mi
Re: How far would you go? Ford 2.5L, 80% long highway [Re: dogememe] #4811270
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By the way, OLM has 8% left. I'm going to reset it before it leaves for the next trip because I don't want it to tell them to change the oil...

Some clarification.

1. I rent out the car on Turo. I try to avoid mentioning this because almost every time people start derailing the thread going on how stupid I am. Let's move on.

2. I have a tracking device on the vehicle that also monitors engine data, any current or pending codes, where the vehicle is, current/past trip data, any harsh braking or acceleration. To data NOBODY has been abusive to the vehicle. An occasional harsh acceleration or braking especially when people are driving downtown SF but other than that 0 or almost 0 on every trip.

3. I can no longer do my own oil changes. I spilled tranny fluid once and now I can do longer do any "fluid related work" behind my job like I used to, and I can't do it here at the apartment building either. I often take my vehicles to a local shop that will do my provided oil and filter for $15 but they are busy today. If I wanted an oil change today I'd have to spend $100 (since I refuse to use anything but full synthetic in the Escape) at the local Valvoline Instant Oil Change location.

4. Yes, transmission service (drain and fill) with Motorcraft Mercon LV every 30K, I did it when I bought it around 65K and I plan to do it at 90K again.

Last edited by dogememe; 07/11/18 12:33 PM.

2010 Ford Escape 2.5 ~94K Miles: Royal Purple 5W-30 + Wix 51348
2008 Ford Crown Vic P71 4.6 ~167K Miles: AMSOIL SS 0W-30 + Wix 51372
1995 Chevy Silverado 5.7 ~277K Miles: Delo 10W-30 + ACDelco PF52
Re: How far would you go? Ford 2.5L, 80% long highway [Re: dogememe] #4811279
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Do you expect the next 2 rentals to really put that many miles on it?

And I thought you were in New York?


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2000 Toyota Camry 2.2L 233k Mobil Super HM 10w40 & Fram Ultra
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Re: How far would you go? Ford 2.5L, 80% long highway [Re: Nick1994] #4811289
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Originally Posted By: Nick1994
Do you expect the next 2 rentals to really put that many miles on it?

And I thought you were in New York?


Nope, not in NY... I was there once for like a week like 5+ years ago though...

I have no idea how many miles they are gonna put on the car but the rental starting today is til the 15th and then the next one is pretty long... from the 16th to August 3rd. But most people rent my vehicle to drive long distances since I'm one of the few Turo hosts (at least in this area) with unlimited miles offered.

Last rental was 5 days and they drove over 1000 miles. One before that was 3 days and they drove 1200.

Last edited by dogememe; 07/11/18 12:42 PM.

2010 Ford Escape 2.5 ~94K Miles: Royal Purple 5W-30 + Wix 51348
2008 Ford Crown Vic P71 4.6 ~167K Miles: AMSOIL SS 0W-30 + Wix 51372
1995 Chevy Silverado 5.7 ~277K Miles: Delo 10W-30 + ACDelco PF52
Re: How far would you go? Ford 2.5L, 80% long highway [Re: dogememe] #4811396
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Agree with UOA now, to figure out if it needs changing between the two rentals or after the long one.


I use the overseas owner's manual to choose my oil.

Using AMSOIL

Hers: 2008 Jeep Liberty 143k, SS 5w30/Amsoil

His: 2015 4Runner 51k, OE 5w30/Wix

Re: How far would you go? Ford 2.5L, 80% long highway [Re: JLTD] #4811456
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Originally Posted By: JLTD
Agree with UOA now, to figure out if it needs changing between the two rentals or after the long one.


As much as I would like to do that, by the time I bother to get out a bit of oil for a UOA I may as well do an oil change... so this is out.


2010 Ford Escape 2.5 ~94K Miles: Royal Purple 5W-30 + Wix 51348
2008 Ford Crown Vic P71 4.6 ~167K Miles: AMSOIL SS 0W-30 + Wix 51372
1995 Chevy Silverado 5.7 ~277K Miles: Delo 10W-30 + ACDelco PF52
Re: How far would you go? Ford 2.5L, 80% long highway [Re: dogememe] #4811505
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Originally Posted By: dogememe
Originally Posted By: Nick1994
Do you expect the next 2 rentals to really put that many miles on it?

And I thought you were in New York?


Nope, not in NY... I was there once for like a week like 5+ years ago though...

I have no idea how many miles they are gonna put on the car but the rental starting today is til the 15th and then the next one is pretty long... from the 16th to August 3rd. But most people rent my vehicle to drive long distances since I'm one of the few Turo hosts (at least in this area) with unlimited miles offered.

Last rental was 5 days and they drove over 1000 miles. One before that was 3 days and they drove 1200.
Oh, so the move fell through I'm guessing? Because you used to post a lot about towing your Escape with the Suburban to NY.

1,200 miles in 3 days!? Wow. I can't imagine what they're doing?


2015 Hyundai Sonata 2.4L 92k STP Synthetic HM 10w30 & Wix
2000 Toyota Camry 2.2L 233k Mobil Super HM 10w40 & Fram Ultra
1996 Jeep Cherokee 4.0L 148k Mobil 1 HM 10w40 & Fram Ultra
Re: How far would you go? Ford 2.5L, 80% long highway [Re: dogememe] #4811556
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It will be fine. I would not change the oil until after the two up coming rentals are done. I've taken cheap synthetics out that far without a problem.

Re: How far would you go? Ford 2.5L, 80% long highway [Re: dogememe] #4811568
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Originally Posted By: dogememe
Originally Posted By: JLTD
Agree with UOA now, to figure out if it needs changing between the two rentals or after the long one.


As much as I would like to do that, by the time I bother to get out a bit of oil for a UOA I may as well do an oil change... so this is out.


Bummer...maybe ask the long rental about how far they plan to drive? "To make sure you won't have to worry about the oil"


I use the overseas owner's manual to choose my oil.

Using AMSOIL

Hers: 2008 Jeep Liberty 143k, SS 5w30/Amsoil

His: 2015 4Runner 51k, OE 5w30/Wix

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