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Might trade my truck #4810811
07/10/18 09:38 PM
07/10/18 09:38 PM
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Posts: 2,697
West Michigan
buck91 Offline OP
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West Michigan
So I am *considering* trading my 2011 F150 supercab 4x4 5.0L 6.5ft bed for something with 4 real doors. The goal being to acquire the 4 real door cab, otherwise I am very happy (now) with my F150. I feel like I have worked out all the peculiar kinks to my model/year and have the necessary, mild, mods to make it what I want (leveled, 33in tires, posi rear, ok stereo, tonneau, bedliner). It has been VERY well maintained and just turned 100k.

At the risks it overtly entails, I'd like ot see some honest thoughts about Going with another Ford vs a Dodge; Chevy isn't off the table but it lacks the visceral appeal to me. FWIW, I will start with Ford. My main attraction is that I know their platforms and product line well both as a buyer and a DIY mechanic. What I find unattractive about Ford is the multiple various nuances and problems my F150 is known for.


2011 F150 4x4 5.0L
1996 Mustang GT 5spd/ragtop
Re: Might trade my truck [Re: buck91] #4810814
07/10/18 09:40 PM
07/10/18 09:40 PM
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Oneida County, NY
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Oneida County, NY
I am on two Ford forums and man am i glad i skipped the 2016-2018, even new 2018.
I found a 2013 with 43k on the clock and in great condition.
No issues (yet) identified other than leaking third brake light.
sunroof is solid.
Seeing all the complaints about the new ones, no thanks.


2013 F150 SCrew Lariat 4X4 5.0 3.55
2012 Altima SL that still vibrates.
2018 Polaris Sportsman 850 SP. Polaris fluids and filter.
Re: Might trade my truck [Re: buck91] #4810833
07/10/18 10:05 PM
07/10/18 10:05 PM
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Wisconsin
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Wisconsin
I just went to a 18 Ford a month ago. It was a toss up between the Ram and Ford. I could sit here and list all my pros and cons, but in reality what I like is probably different than what you like.

I will tell you this. It was so close in the end, the main reason I went with a Ford is because my last handful of trucks were Dodge's. I had no major problems with any of them. But I just wanted to try something different. I would have been happy with either.

Go drive them and see what you like. I drove ALOT of different trucks.

Re: Might trade my truck [Re: buck91] #4810835
07/10/18 10:07 PM
07/10/18 10:07 PM
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5600 feet elevation, Arizona
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5600 feet elevation, Arizona
Agreed. My 2011 Ecoboost has been very good but getting long in tooth. Iíd love to get a new F150 but all the forums make me take pause. Leaking composite oil pans, 10 speed trans issues, weak paint, leaks etc are quite worrisome. Donít want a Ram or Chevy so until Ford pulls it together Iím SOL. Iíd do a new Honda Ridgeline but cylinder deactivation isnít my cup of tea.

So Iím shoring Ďol Betsy up for another 100k ....


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Re: Might trade my truck [Re: buck91] #4810845
07/10/18 10:20 PM
07/10/18 10:20 PM
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Fort Worth, Texas
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Fort Worth, Texas
What about a Tundra? I'm certainly not Toyota's biggest fan but the 5.7L & Aisin 6-speed is a proven drivetrain.

My brother bought a 2018 "1794" Tundra 4 months ago & it's a really nice truck!


2001 Chevy Camaro L92/4L80E
2006 Chevy 2500HD LBZ/Allison 1000
2010 Toyota Corolla 2ZR-FE/U341E
2000 Toyota Avalon 1MZ-FE/A541E
Re: Might trade my truck [Re: double vanos] #4810848
07/10/18 10:24 PM
07/10/18 10:24 PM
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Wisconsin
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Wisconsin
Originally Posted By: double vanos
Agreed. My 2011 Ecoboost has been very good but getting long in tooth. Iíd love to get a new F150 but all the forums make me take pause. Leaking composite oil pans, 10 speed trans issues, weak paint, leaks etc are quite worrisome. Donít want a Ram or Chevy so until Ford pulls it together Iím SOL. Iíd do a new Honda Ridgeline but cylinder deactivation isnít my cup of tea.

So Iím shoring Ďol Betsy up for another 100k ....


They did stop putting plastic pans on the 3.5L at least. Mine was built in March 18. Has aluminum oil pan. The paint, IMO is no worse than the others. In fact its actually better than my 14 Durango paint.

Im not sticking up for Ford because I bought one, Ive just done all the research, and IMO, none of the BIG 3 are any worse or better than the others, build wise.

Re: Might trade my truck [Re: buck91] #4810896
07/11/18 01:04 AM
07/11/18 01:04 AM
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Southeast Texas
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Southeast Texas
Do yourself a favor and definitely see the all new 2019 Ram.

Car & Driver called it "The Bentley of trucks"

US News ranks it #1

https://cars.usnews.com/cars-trucks/rankings/full-size-pickup-trucks

Re: Might trade my truck [Re: buck91] #4810922
07/11/18 03:43 AM
07/11/18 03:43 AM
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The Midwest
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The Midwest
I own land,need a truck and started a thread several weeks ago on it. The 2019 Ram is definitely a step above a 2018 Ford and Chevy in terms of ride quality and the Ram had the best automatic transmission of the three. But if I had to buy something today,it would be an F150.


Wife: 15' Audi A4 quattro 6 speed manual
Me: 13' VW GTI 3 door 6 speed manual
Wanted: 2019 Ford Ranger
Re: Might trade my truck [Re: buck91] #4810923
07/11/18 03:45 AM
07/11/18 03:45 AM
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The Midwest
skyactiv Offline
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The Midwest
I should have said the reason I would buy a Ford is because I prefer it's appeance.


Wife: 15' Audi A4 quattro 6 speed manual
Me: 13' VW GTI 3 door 6 speed manual
Wanted: 2019 Ford Ranger
Re: Might trade my truck [Re: gfh77665] #4810924
07/11/18 03:52 AM
07/11/18 03:52 AM
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NY
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NY
Originally Posted By: gfh77665
Do yourself a favor and definitely see the all new 2019 Ram.

Car & Driver called it "The Bentley of trucks"

US News ranks it #1

https://cars.usnews.com/cars-trucks/rankings/full-size-pickup-trucks


thumbsup That's what I'd be spending my money on.


God Bless Our Troops

Re: Might trade my truck [Re: buck91] #4810939
07/11/18 04:56 AM
07/11/18 04:56 AM
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High Country of Western NC
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High Country of Western NC
Since I'm a GM truck guy you'll have to take what I say with a grain of salt grin BUT unless you are in a hurry I'd wait until the fall until the 19 Chevy and GMC's hit the market. Even if you are not a fan, I'd still wait. With the new 19 Ram, which I really like the looks of, and two new trucks from GM out, it should make Ford even more price competitive since they'll have the oldest truck out of the Big 3.

If you are like me, the price of new trucks will have a lot going forward with the brand I drive. Short of taking out an auto mortgage I will have to look to save a penny anywhere I can.


2017 Subaru Impreza 2.0
QSUD 0W-20/Wix 57055
2017 GMC Sierra Denali 5.3
QSUD 0W-20/NAPA Gold 100255
2017 Subaru Forester 2.5
QSUD 0W-20/NAPA Gold 7055
Re: Might trade my truck [Re: buck91] #4810941
07/11/18 05:19 AM
07/11/18 05:19 AM
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Lakeville, MN
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Lakeville, MN
All of the major manufacturers trucks have issues and quirks. Period. Test drive them all and decide what you like. For me, it was a decision between a Ram and a F150, and in the end I bought a 2016 F150. 2+ years and 30,000 miles later, I have zero regrets. The Ram lost out due to lower fuel economy in my configuration and a steel body subject to the same rust problems as before... Did not care for the GM trucks, just a personal preference. I dismissed the Toyota early due to fuel economy and frankly feeling a lot like the truck I was replacing (that was 12+ years old at that point...). Those were my impressions anwyways...

I'm not sure which forums are being frequented, but I can state that the forum I frequent for F150's is an echo chamber for complaints. There is a small group of owners on that board that seem to miraculously have every issue ever known on these trucks. I can often read the post and within 2 sentences know exactly which poster put it out there. I am not downplaying that there are trucks with issues. But given the huge number of them produced, a few are going to have problems inevitably.

If I listened to some of those folks, there is no way I don't have a leaking composite oil pan (I don't), have shocks that aren't terrible (truck rides better than my previous F150 and its not even close), get near the advertised fuel mileage (truck delivers that just fine when driven reasonably), not have leaks in the cab ( none noted), melted rear cargo lamp (no issue here), flimsy bed (no holes in mine yet smile ), thin paint (wear is no worse than any other vehicle I've owned), have tires that balance (they balance fine and are wearing evenly and delivering decent enough performance), valve seats that leak oil (no issue), entertainment system that doesn't work (mine works fine), windshield delaminating (no issues), moonroof leaking (don't have one), IWE's not disengaging (mine work fine), etc, etc, etc...

Not saying there aren't issues. Just take what you read with a huge grain of salt sometimes...

Re: Might trade my truck [Re: clinebarger] #4810970
07/11/18 06:17 AM
07/11/18 06:17 AM
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Virginia Beach
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Virginia Beach
Originally Posted By: clinebarger
What about a Tundra? I'm certainly not Toyota's biggest fan but the 5.7L & Aisin 6-speed is a proven drivetrain.

My brother bought a 2018 "1794" Tundra 4 months ago & it's a really nice truck!


I feel compelled to second that.

Genuine 4 door. Luxurious seating in back. No ďissuesĒ to be worked out. Solid, reliable truck but, Iíll caution, thirsty...

I wouldnít trade my Tundra for any new truck on the market.


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Re: Might trade my truck [Re: buck91] #4811003
07/11/18 07:04 AM
07/11/18 07:04 AM
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PA
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Trucks are fun, but at least here in PA you see a lot of rusty 5+ year old trucks.

I sold mine. Could not justify having it when it was only used for its intended purpose (Hauling Stuff) less than a dozen times a year.

Our Jeep can still handle a lot of smaller hauling, and if needed I'll rent a truck for $20. I got a few acres.

I thought I would use it more, but that was not the case. Not a fan of using a truck as a daily driver anymore either.

Everyone around here has one tho, and most sit in the driveway all day long. It's a thing these days I guess.


Anything can happen
The tallest towers be overturned
Those in high places be daunted
Those overlooked regarded
- Seamus Heaney
Re: Might trade my truck [Re: 123Saab] #4811040
07/11/18 07:45 AM
07/11/18 07:45 AM
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Onondaga County
Miller88 Online content
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Onondaga County
Originally Posted By: 123Saab
Trucks are fun, but at least here in PA you see a lot of rusty 5+ year old trucks.

I sold mine. Could not justify having it when it was only used for its intended purpose (Hauling Stuff) less than a dozen times a year.

Our Jeep can still handle a lot of smaller hauling, and if needed I'll rent a truck for $20. I got a few acres.

I thought I would use it more, but that was not the case. Not a fan of using a truck as a daily driver anymore either.

Everyone around here has one tho, and most sit in the driveway all day long. It's a thing these days I guess.


When I go to PA in my rusty truck, I admire how rust free the trucks are there.


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