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#4810690 - 07/10/18 08:11 PM Virgin high ad pack means lower group oil?
Vern_in_IL Offline


Registered: 06/25/14
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A Synthetic virgin sample with a higher ad pack would mean it is a lower group oil (more by %) and they just added stuff to make it meet certification requirements? I'm talking off the shelf oils, not posh oils.

For example, O'reilly full syn has a stronger ad package than Mobil 1 syn. Virgin oil samples from Blackstone.


Edited by Vern_in_IL (07/10/18 08:17 PM)
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#4810692 - 07/10/18 08:13 PM Re: Virgin high ad pack means lower group oil? [Re: Vern_in_IL]
The Critic Offline


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No, where did you come up with this idea?
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#4810699 - 07/10/18 08:22 PM Re: Virgin high ad pack means lower group oil? [Re: Vern_in_IL]
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Originally Posted By: Vern_in_IL
A Synthetic virgin sample with a higher ad pack would mean it is a lower group oil (more by %) and they just added stuff to make it meet certification requirements? I'm talking off the shelf oils, not posh oils.

For example, O'reilly full syn has a stronger ad package than Mobil 1 syn. Virgin oil samples from Blackstone.


What do you mean by:

Higher Add pack

Stronger ad package?

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#4810714 - 07/10/18 08:47 PM Re: Virgin high ad pack means lower group oil? [Re: Vern_in_IL]
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I thought better of the response I was writing.

duh
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#4810755 - 07/10/18 09:32 PM Re: Virgin high ad pack means lower group oil? [Re: Vern_in_IL]
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As many users on here have pointed out. A 28.00 Blackstone Lab Analysis does not show everything. In addition to different calibrations etc. Heck, I read that certain test are performed differently outside North America, concerning oil related research.



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#4810821 - 07/10/18 10:48 PM Re: Virgin high ad pack means lower group oil? [Re: Vern_in_IL]
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What is the definition of a stronger add pack?
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#4811045 - 07/11/18 08:47 AM Re: Virgin high ad pack means lower group oil? [Re: Vern_in_IL]
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I think I understand what the OP is trying to say.
When I first came to BITOG, Valvoline (dino) was panned for having a weak additive package....and yet it produced very good UOAs...the assumption was that it used excellent base oils and didn't need as much additives.
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#4811123 - 07/11/18 09:40 AM Re: Virgin high ad pack means lower group oil? [Re: Vern_in_IL]
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Well aside from the previous questions still with pending answers; if it is "synthetic" it should only be combinations of group III and above, so what do you mean by "lower group oil"?

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#4811191 - 07/11/18 10:57 AM Re: Virgin high ad pack means lower group oil? [Re: Vern_in_IL]
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Maybe we are thinking VII content?
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