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Virgin high ad pack means lower group oil? #4810690
07/10/18 08:11 PM
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A Synthetic virgin sample with a higher ad pack would mean it is a lower group oil (more by %) and they just added stuff to make it meet certification requirements? I'm talking off the shelf oils, not posh oils.

For example, O'reilly full syn has a stronger ad package than Mobil 1 syn. Virgin oil samples from Blackstone.

Last edited by Vern_in_IL; 07/10/18 08:17 PM.
Re: Virgin high ad pack means lower group oil? [Re: Vern_in_IL] #4810692
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No, where did you come up with this idea?


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Re: Virgin high ad pack means lower group oil? [Re: Vern_in_IL] #4810699
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Originally Posted By: Vern_in_IL
A Synthetic virgin sample with a higher ad pack would mean it is a lower group oil (more by %) and they just added stuff to make it meet certification requirements? I'm talking off the shelf oils, not posh oils.

For example, O'reilly full syn has a stronger ad package than Mobil 1 syn. Virgin oil samples from Blackstone.


What do you mean by:

Higher Add pack

Stronger ad package?


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Re: Virgin high ad pack means lower group oil? [Re: Vern_in_IL] #4810714
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I thought better of the response I was writing.

duh


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Re: Virgin high ad pack means lower group oil? [Re: Vern_in_IL] #4810755
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As many users on here have pointed out. A 28.00 Blackstone Lab Analysis does not show everything. In addition to different calibrations etc. Heck, I read that certain test are performed differently outside North America, concerning oil related research.



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Re: Virgin high ad pack means lower group oil? [Re: Vern_in_IL] #4810821
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What is the definition of a stronger add pack?


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Re: Virgin high ad pack means lower group oil? [Re: Vern_in_IL] #4811045
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I think I understand what the OP is trying to say.
When I first came to BITOG, Valvoline (dino) was panned for having a weak additive package....and yet it produced very good UOAs...the assumption was that it used excellent base oils and didn't need as much additives.


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Re: Virgin high ad pack means lower group oil? [Re: Vern_in_IL] #4811123
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Well aside from the previous questions still with pending answers; if it is "synthetic" it should only be combinations of group III and above, so what do you mean by "lower group oil"?

Re: Virgin high ad pack means lower group oil? [Re: Vern_in_IL] #4811191
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Maybe we are thinking VII content?


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