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SAE HS806 Vs ISO 4548-12 #4810427
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Can anyone tell me the differences between these two tests?

Mercury Marine rate their filters using the SAE HS806 standard.

They only say "97%" and give no micron rating - sounds like frontier gibberish, but the test itself may specify the particle size and fill in the missing data.

Thanks!

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Re: SAE HS806 Vs ISO 4548-12 [Re: UncleDave] #4811012
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......anything?


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Re: SAE HS806 Vs ISO 4548-12 [Re: UncleDave] #4811326
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It looks like this test is similar to the US-car36 which tests many other parameters besides multi pass efficiency. Couldn't find the actual test. Mercury may be referring to single pass efficiency according to said test.

http://www.ifts-usa.com/file/Standards%20for%20Engine%20Lube%20Oil%20Filter%20Tests.pdf

https://www.sae.org/images/books/toc_pdfs/HS8062009.pdf

Re: SAE HS806 Vs ISO 4548-12 [Re: UncleDave] #4811405
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I hadn't found either of these datasets - good info thank you sir!

Look like I may have to buy the test to really know.

I suspect Merc is winging the numbers on the side of the box.


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Re: SAE HS806 Vs ISO 4548-12 [Re: UncleDave] #4811417
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As we all know, specifying an efficiency percentage without a corresponding micron size is useless info, and an advertising scheme geared towards people not fully knowlegable about filtration.

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The only way it wouldn't be the gibberish it appears to be at the moment - is if that particular SAE test specified the particle size as part of the test parameter.

.....then "97%" would mean something.


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.....the article in question

Worst potting and seam Ive ever seen.


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It looks like mess backed full synthetic media. If it's 97% at 20 microns then it's pretty good.

Did you try contacting Mercury to see if they have more efficiently info?

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Originally Posted By: ZeeOSix
It looks like mess backed full synthetic media. If it's 97% at 20 microns then it's pretty good.

Did you try contacting Mercury to see if they have more efficiently info?


Haven't bothered the mercury rep with stuff like that - I may float it out to some of the boating forums to see if a rep can pick it up but I don't want to call my Merc rep for something like this yet.

Im just not running it till I know and I have plenty of good option Mainly the new HP4 at these HP's/pressures, and sump intervals.

When the guys ask about it - Ill just point out what I can see- which isnt great.

The can is nice and thick - probably the thickest Ive seen in a while.

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