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#4810213 - 07/10/18 12:23 PM Need some advice.
SEMI_287 Offline


Registered: 02/25/11
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Loc: Up State NY
My younger brother is on our cell plan with my wife and I. His ex girlfriend had her phone stolen so we felt bad for her and got her an spankin' new iPhone 7 on our plan. She had been paying us $50 a month for almost a year. They broke up and I asked for the phone back. She kept it and put it on Straight Talk. It still shows up as a line on our account. Short of finding her and taking it can I report the phone lost/stolen to Verizon and have it black listed? Or am I going to eat the rest of the $300 left on the device payments? I know, I shouldn't have, lesson learned.
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#4810223 - 07/10/18 12:29 PM Re: Need some advice. [Re: SEMI_287]
supton Offline


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I wouldn't take it. I'd rather have the police take it, and for $300 I'm not sure it's worth the effort.

I'd be tempted to tell Verizon it was stolen, but only if I was ok with pressing charges withe police. If I just wanted the matter to go away I'd eat the $300 as a lesson learned.

Sorry.

Oh: is brother going to stay on the plan with you? If it was me, and this might reflect poorly on me, I'd give serious thought about kicking him off.
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#4810228 - 07/10/18 12:32 PM Re: Need some advice. [Re: SEMI_287]
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Registered: 03/18/08
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This one is EASY. Your little brother is responsible for getting the phone back or the $300 payment. Its his girlfriend, its his responsibility. Tell him he owes you $300 immediately. If he any sense of pride and dignity, he will realize this is his problem, and not your problem, and make you whole. If he doesn't, I would cut him off your cell phone plan and threaten to never talk to him again. A pretty hefty price to pay over $300. Man up and handle YOUR responsibilities.

Originally Posted By: supton
I wouldn't take it. I'd rather have the police take it, and for $300 I'm not sure it's worth the effort. I'd be tempted to tell Verizon it was stolen, but only if I was ok with pressing charges withe police.


This is not a police matter. Nothing was stolen. Nothing should be reported stolen. It was always her phone, that belonged to her. The payment plan negotiated with the OP is a civil matter, and is absolutely, positively not a police matter. Don't even think about calling them, and wasting their time, as they will tell you the same thing.
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#4810232 - 07/10/18 12:34 PM Re: Need some advice. [Re: bubbatime]
supton Offline


Registered: 11/09/08
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Loc: NH
Originally Posted By: bubbatime
This one is EASY. Your little brother is responsible for getting the phone back or the $300 payment. Its his girlfriend, its his responsibility. Tell him he owes you $300 immediately. If he any sense of pride and dignity, he will realize this is his problem, and not your problem, and make you whole. If he doesn't, I would cut him off your cell phone plan and threaten to never talk to him again. A pretty hefty price to pay over $300.


Ooh, I didn't think about that. I could be behind that.

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This is not a police matter. Nothing was stolen. Nothing should be reported stolen. It was always her phone, that belonged to her. The payment plan negotiated with the OP is a civil matter, and is absolutely, positively not a police matter. Don't even think about calling them, and wasting their time, as they will tell you the same thing.


Fair enough. Was thinking along the lines of it being taken, thus it was stolen.


Edited by supton (07/10/18 12:38 PM)
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#4810235 - 07/10/18 12:35 PM Re: Need some advice. [Re: supton]
turtlevette Offline


Registered: 12/24/13
Posts: 3649
Loc: Massachusetts
Your younger brother owes you $300. Seems obvious to me
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#4810243 - 07/10/18 12:41 PM Re: Need some advice. [Re: SEMI_287]
bullwinkle Offline


Registered: 10/09/04
Posts: 7726
Loc: Cincinnati, OH, USA
If it's on your account, it can be remotely wiped by the Find my iPhone app-guessing it's not on your iTunes? Might ask Verizon, I'm sure this has come up before.
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#4810244 - 07/10/18 12:41 PM Re: Need some advice. [Re: SEMI_287]
Al Offline


Registered: 06/08/02
Posts: 18097
Loc: Elizabethtown, Pa
I agree with Bubba. But if it were me I would just forget the whole matter.
But neither would I have bought an iphone 7. So you created this monster. Should have gotten her a 5i
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#4810246 - 07/10/18 12:41 PM Re: Need some advice. [Re: SEMI_287]
bubbatime Offline


Registered: 03/18/08
Posts: 5722
Loc: South Florida
Once the girlfriend took possession of the phone, it was her phone. Her property, that belonged to her. If she had bought the phone on a credit card, she would be in debt to the credit card company for the cost of the phone, but the phone would still be hers. The credit card company could not report it stolen if she stopped paying on her credit card bill. The same applies to the op. He was the "credit card" or "lender" in this case. She promised to pay the phone back, but didn't.

Hopefully this is a lesson to all about dealing with "family" and money. It can get ugly.

If you have an older, cheaper phone that the girlfriend can activate, MAYBE she would be willing to trade the expensive phone for the cheaper phone. Give her a sob story about your credit is going to be affected and you cant afford the phone payments and you are trying to find a "reasonable" conclusion. Distance yourself from the brother and tell her that she can be mad at him all she wants, but she shouldn't penalize you and your generosity.

If you are close with her parents perhaps you can send a word to them and ask for their help? Use REASONABLE and courteous communication, or they will shut you down. "We've always liked Nancy Sue and were heart broken to hear she broke up with Tommy. Followed by the relevant facts."
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#4810249 - 07/10/18 12:44 PM Re: Need some advice. [Re: turtlevette]
Mr Nice Offline


Registered: 09/12/04
Posts: 21347
Loc: Orlando, FL
Originally Posted By: turtlevette
Your younger brother owes you $300. Seems obvious to me

Yep.

And Bubba is 100% right.

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#4810265 - 07/10/18 12:58 PM Re: Need some advice. [Re: SEMI_287]
kschachn Offline


Registered: 12/26/05
Posts: 9512
Loc: Upper Midwest
And unless you have some sort of insurance plan with the carrier or a third party (or you somehow turn it in on your homeowner's) then you're still on the hook for both the phone and the plan. FWIW AppleCare+ does not cover theft.
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#4810277 - 07/10/18 01:07 PM Re: Need some advice. [Re: SEMI_287]
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Registered: 08/13/11
Posts: 1971
Loc: Lakeside, CA
You bought a cell phone for your brothers Girl Friend? What on earth were you thinking? grin
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#4810283 - 07/10/18 01:09 PM Re: Need some advice. [Re: SEMI_287]
Zee09 Offline


Registered: 05/05/18
Posts: 470
Loc: Tri State Conservative
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#4810290 - 07/10/18 01:14 PM Re: Need some advice. [Re: Blkstanger]
Drew99GT Offline


Registered: 10/11/02
Posts: 22145
Loc: Colorado Springs
Originally Posted By: Blkstanger
You bought a cell phone for your brothers Girl Friend? What on earth were you thinking? grin


Yea, especially of there was no quid pro quo involved! Just kidding...

You're screwed. The phone is gone. If you do most people a favor like this, they will screw you over, run you over then back up, and won't think twice about it. Which is why if you do someone a favor, you should never expect ANYTHING in return or any compensation.

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#4810309 - 07/10/18 01:40 PM Re: Need some advice. [Re: SEMI_287]
gman2304 Offline


Registered: 08/11/11
Posts: 3086
Loc: n.c.
Consider yourself lucky that she paid $600. Donít let this drive a wedge between you and your brother. Move on, lesson learned.

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#4810333 - 07/10/18 02:04 PM Re: Need some advice. [Re: SEMI_287]
askani79705 Offline


Registered: 06/10/06
Posts: 413
Loc: midland tx
Not wanting to be too callous but , ultimately you approved of all this and assumed the risk. Just eat the $300 and chalk it up a a expensive lesson learned
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