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#4810120 - 07/10/18 11:27 AM Ford FL-500S Vs Baldwin B7449
cdlamb Offline


Registered: 07/09/18
Posts: 5
Loc: SK
sorry, I have tried the search, & cant seem to find the information I am looking for. I recently purchased a new 2018 F150 3.5 Ecoboost. I completed the first oil change early at 3900 kilometers, or around 2400 miles for you Americans. I though oil was pretty black in appearance for a new engine, & had a gassy fuel dilution odor. I sent a sample to Fluid Life in Edmonton for Analysis.
Once I get results back I will share them.

I replaced oil with a store Brand, (Canadian Tire Formula 1) Shell Manufactured Synthetic Oil, & a Baldwin Filter.

I am having trouble finding the specs for a Ford filter, efficiency rating, & concerned about the differences in bypass settings. I have heard from other sources that some feel that adding an aftermarket oil separator catch can is beneficial to preventing the intake valves from carbon buildup, & might install a Team RXP, dual valve RX catch can, or UPR 5030-221-1 separator in the future. Would be monitoring oil through analysis to log if there is any benefit, or all gimmick.

The following is all I have found for Fords filter specs, I have attached a Baldwin summary as well

Motorcraft FL-500S OIL FILTER SPECS
Part Number: 57502
Principal Application: Mazda Tribute, Ford Escape and Mercury Mariner (2009) w/ 3.0L engine - Ford Taurus, Edge, Mercury Sable w/ V6 3.5L mfg after 1/16/2009
Style: Spin-On Lube Filter
Service: Lube
Type: Full Flow
Media: Paper
Height: 4.09
Outer Diameter Top: 2.942
Outer Diameter Bottom: Closed
Thread Size: 22X1.5 MM
By-Pass Valve Setting-PSI: 8
Anti-Drain Back Valve: Yes
Max Flow Rate: 10-12 GPM
Beta Ratio
Burst Pressure
Normal Micron Rating
Gasket Dim's: 2.753" OD x ID 2.397" ID x 0.25" Thick
The original oil filter from factory was a FoMoCo AA5E 6714 DA, what is the significance of the ***E/ ***Z as compared with the AA5Z-6714-A






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#4810358 - 07/10/18 02:24 PM Re: Ford FL-500S Vs Baldwin B7449 [Re: cdlamb]
tig1 Offline


Registered: 01/03/09
Posts: 13713
Loc: Illinois
Where does the bottle of oil fit in here with the filters?
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#4810581 - 07/10/18 06:08 PM Re: Ford FL-500S Vs Baldwin B7449 [Re: cdlamb]
BrianF Offline


Registered: 02/25/15
Posts: 583
Loc: Sask, Canada
Baldwin is really good for specs when emailed. I have dealt with them on a few matters with Racor, Baldwin and Hastings. They always gave quick detailed responses.

As for the oil, where did you score that? Most CT stores I have been in are now carrying the Citgo made MM oils.
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#4810608 - 07/10/18 06:51 PM Re: Ford FL-500S Vs Baldwin B7449 [Re: cdlamb]
jongies3 Offline


Registered: 03/11/16
Posts: 839
Loc: MT
I didn't know Baldwins were that efficient, nice to know! I'd use it personally over the MC for that reason alone. Plus the media won't tear either.
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#4810618 - 07/10/18 07:00 PM Re: Ford FL-500S Vs Baldwin B7449 [Re: cdlamb]
ZeeOSix Offline


Registered: 07/22/10
Posts: 17894
Loc: PNW
What the efficiency numbers mean.

BX=2 means 50% efficiency. So the chart says it's 50% @ 12 microns

BX=75 means 98.7% efficiency. So the chart says it's 98.7% @ 25 microns.



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#4810874 - 07/11/18 01:06 AM Re: Ford FL-500S Vs Baldwin B7449 [Re: tig1]
cdlamb Offline


Registered: 07/09/18
Posts: 5
Loc: SK
Originally Posted By: tig1
Where does the bottle of oil fit in here with the filters?


This is the oil I used with the oil change. I was using Canadian Tire Synthetic for quite a while with the Baldwin filter in my 07 5.4 It had 383000 kilometers on original motor & transmission when it was stolen from me 2 months ago. Tow truck driver said it was still driving good when he pulled it off the spruce tree!

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#4810876 - 07/11/18 01:10 AM Re: Ford FL-500S Vs Baldwin B7449 [Re: ZeeOSix]
cdlamb Offline


Registered: 07/09/18
Posts: 5
Loc: SK
Originally Posted By: ZeeOSix
What the efficiency numbers mean.

BX=2 means 50% efficiency. So the chart says it's 50% @ 12 microns

BX=75 means 98.7% efficiency. So the chart says it's 98.7% @ 25 microns.


Do you know the specs on the FL-500S ?

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#4810928 - 07/11/18 05:22 AM Re: Ford FL-500S Vs Baldwin B7449 [Re: cdlamb]
2015_PSD Offline


Registered: 09/26/10
Posts: 7332
Loc: SE Texas
Of course, the FoMoCo filter is not an FL-500s; these are typically Champion made "one size fits many" filters that Ford uses on many models to reduce costs "out of the gate".
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#4811236 - 07/11/18 11:54 AM Re: Ford FL-500S Vs Baldwin B7449 [Re: cdlamb]
cdlamb Offline


Registered: 07/09/18
Posts: 5
Loc: SK
I contacted Baldwin and received a spec sheet on PDF. Unfortunately I can not figure out how to convert to a file under 6 MB to share. My spec sheet shows the media grade has changed from L26-75M to L26-88 I also don't show an average efficiency, but the old one was 89.4. I think this is better

Part # Brand: B7449/ BALDWIN
Thread: M22 x 1.5
Gasket Features: G449-B AD, HBP (20PSI)
Outside Diameter: 2.92
Length: 4.10
Media Grade: L26-88
Area sq. in.: 164.5
Capacity, grams: 11.5
Est micron rating: 9.8
BX=2: 9.8 (captures 50% of 9.8 micron particles)
BX=75: 27 (captures 98.7% of 27 micron particles)
Burst psi: 200
Collapse psi: 150
OEM Ford

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#4811384 - 07/11/18 01:58 PM Re: Ford FL-500S Vs Baldwin B7449 [Re: cdlamb]
ZeeOSix Offline


Registered: 07/22/10
Posts: 17894
Loc: PNW
BX=75 was at 25 microns on the other Baldwin, so slightly better. But BX=2 is slightly better on the 2nd Baldwin. The diffetences aren't enough to worry about.

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