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Is the Fram OCOD going to be the new Tough Guard? #4809452
07/09/18 05:27 PM
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With a silicon ADBV and improved efficiency, plus advertising longer performance, is Fram pushing the orange can in the direction of the Tough Guard? Maybe they'll drop the TG and give the OCOD the 10k mile rating and just have the two filters, OCOD and XG to simplify things a bit. Sorta like WIX does, just the standard WIX and the XP makes it easier for the consumer to decide. What is the general consensus here? I'm a devout fan of the TG but if the OCOD turns out to be just as good, I'll probably just go with that from now on and save a few bucks. Orange can of delight, mind you! I like the Ultra fine as well, but find it overkill for my mere 7500 mile OCI on the Tacoma since it is capable of going triple that mileage.


2004 Toyota Tacoma 3.4 V6: Mobil 1 AFE 0W-30, FRAM TG-3600 filter
1969 Mustang Mach 1 5.8 V8: PYB 10W-30 Napa Gold 1515 filter
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Re: Is the Fram OCOD going to be the new Tough Guard? [Re: jongies3] #4809480
07/09/18 06:01 PM
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Around the time the silicone orange cans were first announced, Motorking said the TG is here to stay smile

Re: Is the Fram OCOD going to be the new Tough Guard? [Re: jongies3] #4809490
07/09/18 06:18 PM
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My Walmart has the re-engineered Tough guards, designated with the word "new" on the box.


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Re: Is the Fram OCOD going to be the new Tough Guard? [Re: jongies3] #4809503
07/09/18 06:38 PM
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That would be my wish list. Keep the orange can, but use the grey can's inner works.


Plain, simple Garak.

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Re: Is the Fram OCOD going to be the new Tough Guard? [Re: jongies3] #4809520
07/09/18 06:57 PM
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I'd dump both.
The Ultra would be even cheaper and I see no real value in second and third tier
products. Build the best and sell the best.


"If I walked on water, they'd say I couldn't swim."
Re: Is the Fram OCOD going to be the new Tough Guard? [Re: Zee09] #4809564
07/09/18 07:35 PM
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Based on what?
Vast majority of people aren't going to buy or need what BITOG fanatics consider to be necessary.

Originally Posted By: Zee09
I'd dump both.
The Ultra would be even cheaper and I see no real value in second and third tier
products. Build the best and sell the best.

Re: Is the Fram OCOD going to be the new Tough Guard? [Re: Zee09] #4809589
07/09/18 07:57 PM
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Originally Posted By: Zee09
I'd dump both.
The Ultra would be even cheaper and I see no real value in second and third tier
products. Build the best and sell the best.

Good, better, best.
Most all product lines have these options to cover all cost/quality ranges.

You make more money that way.


1994 Honda VT1100: Peak 15w-40/PSL/2500 mile OCI
2002 Ford F150: GTX HM 5w-20/EcoGard Syn/1yr OCI
2012 Scion xB: QSUD 0w-20/CQ Blue/5k OCI

Re: Is the Fram OCOD going to be the new Tough Guard? [Re: jongies3] #4809645
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I thought the OCOD was for normal OCIs and the others were for extended/multiple OCIs.
We can't just be happy with a entry level filter with a silicone ADBV, someone has to play CEO and ruin it for everyone.


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Edge 0W40 + Mann 719/30
Re: Is the Fram OCOD going to be the new Tough Guard? [Re: jongies3] #4809679
07/09/18 09:28 PM
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The OCOD will remain the OCOD according to recent photos of them here.

Re: Is the Fram OCOD going to be the new Tough Guard? [Re: jongies3] #4809694
07/09/18 09:42 PM
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