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Opinions: These small displacement turbos #4809323
07/09/18 02:13 PM
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Speak2Mountain Offline OP
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The Future or a
Temporary Bridge to the Future

Re: Opinions: These small displacement turbos [Re: Speak2Mountain] #4809327
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Everything is just a bridge or another step to the future.


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Re: Opinions: These small displacement turbos [Re: Speak2Mountain] #4809336
07/09/18 02:23 PM
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Welcome to the new era of gas engines. Some vehicles have a larger 4 cylinder turbo available like in the Accord.
The 2.0T is an option over the 1.5T on certain models.
The 2019 Silverado will have a 2.7L turbo 4.
My wife's Audi performs just fine with the 2.0L turbo despite having all wheel drive.


Wife: 15' Audi A4 quattro 6 speed manual
Me: 13' VW GTI 3 door 6 speed manual
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Re: Opinions: These small displacement turbos [Re: Speak2Mountain] #4809340
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Turbos have been mainstream for almost 30 years.

Wish they'd bring back the decals that used to come with the turbo though.


"Zed's dead baby, Zed's dead."
Re: Opinions: These small displacement turbos [Re: Speak2Mountain] #4809354
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The US is finally catching up!! Small displacement turbocharged engines have been mainstream in almost every country for decades EXCEPT the US!!


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Re: Opinions: These small displacement turbos [Re: Speak2Mountain] #4809355
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Originally Posted By: Speak2Mountain
The Future or a
Temporary Bridge to the Future


Temporary Bridge to the Future certainly but a much better option than a big V8, personally I love a nice turbo 4 banger or high tech, multi valve DOHC injected straight 6 turbo or not.


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Re: Opinions: These small displacement turbos [Re: Speak2Mountain] #4809360
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55,000 miles on my 1.0 3-cylinder Ford EcoBoost Focus. I’d buy another Ford 3-cylinder EcoBoost in a heartbeat. Excellent engine.

Tows my 5x8 enclosed with ease, and will do 50+ MPG when you want it to.



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Re: Opinions: These small displacement turbos [Re: Speak2Mountain] #4809369
07/09/18 02:56 PM
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I have no complaints with my 2018 Chevy Equinox with the 1.5L turbo. Scoots about just fine and returns decent mileage.


2012 Toyota Rav4 V6 4WD (73,000 mi)
2018 Chevy Equinox 1.5T (7800mi)
Re: Opinions: These small displacement turbos [Re: road_rascal] #4809377
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Polaris RZR and Can-Am both offering below 1000cc engines turbocharged sidebysides. Its the future of offroading.

I will probably buy the new RZR S turbo. $25K no ac, no heat, no windshield or back glass, half a door, no stereo..UGG.

Re: Opinions: These small displacement turbos [Re: Speak2Mountain] #4809395
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My wife's 1.5 turbo Civic easily moves itself around with authority when asked to. It's a long-stroke motor for low-end torque with a turbo for midrange power.

Re: Opinions: These small displacement turbos [Re: Speak2Mountain] #4809401
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Japan has been doing small displacement turboes for a long time. However, the American public will do 7k or 10k OCIs and that will ruin the engines.


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Re: Opinions: These small displacement turbos [Re: Speak2Mountain] #4809403
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TGDI with an extra side of LSPI oilburner

Turbo, DI, regular gas, and 0w20 do not play well together, people! no-no

They should make the turbos only operate above a certain rpm threshold, only when the engine is warm, and there should be a turbo timer. That might take care of the LSPI. You don't need the turbos at parking lot speeds.

Re: Opinions: These small displacement turbos [Re: Speak2Mountain] #4809407
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Company car in Europe is a MB C180, 1.6 liter turbo with 6 speed manual. Over 40mpg when gentle but close to 140 mph on autobahn(not at the same time! Ha ha). I lament the loss of limited slip differentials and total control of stability systems...progress?....sigh.


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Re: Opinions: These small displacement turbos [Re: Speak2Mountain] #4809415
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The smaller the displacement, the more noticeable the turbo lag is typically. Even most 2.0 turbo engines suck at this, but have gotten better compared to 20 years ago. For someone who is accustomed to immediate response of an NA engine, this can be hard to get used to.

I had a loaner 2018 A4 a few weeks ago. The engine was nice once at higher RPMs and on boost, but the lag was still noticeable.

If given a choice between a turbo 4 and an NA 6, I'll take the latter.



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'15 Q5 3.0T (Edge 5W-40)
'18 Charger SRT (PUP 0W-40 SRT)
Re: Opinions: These small displacement turbos [Re: rooflessVW] #4809425
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Originally Posted By: rooflessVW
Turbos have been mainstream for almost 30 years.

Wish they'd bring back the decals that used to come with the turbo though.

Thinking of getting this decal for my 2017 Buick Regal GS 2.0T

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