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Anti-seize application guide? #4808537
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Does anyone know of a good application guide for the varieties of anti seize? I know one can buy silver (Al, Cu and graphite mix), Copper, Nickel, and marine (Moly and graphite) types. Someplace I read there is a zinc variety as well.

I know certain ones have specific temperature ratings, but what about materials recommendations? Essentially, if you're contacting material x with material y, a good/batter/best type chart.

I haven't found a good one.

Anyone have a good resource?

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What about this? It will let you set different parameters and show you which should be chosen.

https://www.all-spec.com/Manufacturers/L...eize-Lubricants

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I've been looking at anti seize as well. I've always used the permatex al. But i have thought about getting some nickel. Is there any setting not to use nickel?


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I still have a little bottle of the Aluminum

Salt, corrosion and moisture resistant
Prevents galling, corrosion and seizing to assure easier disassembly
Temperature Range: -60F to 1600F (-51C to 871C)
Ideal for marine use

That is what the product info says...which all leads you to believe that its perfect for moving brake parts.. but i dont like it at all. Turns to chalk and doesnt lubricate well. Seems to harden and turn chalky on spark plug threads also.


I have tried copper antiseize on lug threads/O2 Sensors, Spark plugs, and Brake parts all with success..

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Originally Posted By: 2015_PSD
What about this? It will let you set different parameters and show you which should be chosen.

https://www.all-spec.com/Manufacturers/L...eize-Lubricants


Using the menu, all the 1600f+ selections were silver.


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Thanks Trav. Looking at the charts , nickel is the high temp choice, but is not indicated for aluminum and soft metals. The siver grade is AL.

So maybe nickel for exhaust stuff and Al for trans case or aluminum block stuff. O2 sensors always seem to be copper.

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Re: Anti-seize application guide? [Re: spasm3] #4808724
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Originally Posted By: spasm3


Thanks Trav. Looking at the charts , nickel is the high temp choice, but is not indicated for aluminum and soft metals. The siver grade is AL.

So maybe nickel for exhaust stuff and Al for trans case or aluminum block stuff. O2 sensors always seem to be copper.


I was going to say, from the Mexican site, it looks to me like the casual,user would be best served with a can of marine grade and a can of zinc type.

Zinc seems superior for aluminum stuff, and the marine grade for everything else.

I'd be concerned about using Cu anti seize on Al parts (first world problem, I know), and since I'm not a huge user, saving money with the standard silver stuff seems a little penny wise pound foolish if there's something better for the long run.

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I use this as the general go to for most jobs, it does work very well at keeping rust away when a very thin film is applied behind brake rotor hats and hub faces.

https://www.permatex.com/products/lubric...ze-lubricant-2/

I keep a can of copper and marine for other jobs, anything one the suspension or bolts under the car got marine (salt belt), 02 and plugs, exhaust manifold studs get copper.


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Re: Anti-seize application guide? [Re: JHZR2] #4808815
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I have never had, or have ever seen ANY thread, any size, at any torque, that was treated with Loctite C5-A ever give problems. And this is based on a 45 year career in the die / mold / machining / metalworking industry. This is a lifetime supply for most individuals.

https://www.amazon.com/Loctite-Copper-Anti-Seize-Lubricant-Temperature/dp/B001HWDEGW

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What is the purpose of SiO2 in some varieties?

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Originally Posted By: billt460
I have never had, or have ever seen ANY thread, any size, at any torque, that was treated with Loctite C5-A ever give problems. And this is based on a 45 year career in the die / mold / machining / metalworking industry. This is a lifetime supply for most individuals.

https://www.amazon.com/Loctite-Copper-Anti-Seize-Lubricant-Temperature/dp/B001HWDEGW


Can't use it in power station applications...causes intergrannular embrittlement.

Copper and low melting point metals (and halogenated compounds) are no-nos in many actual applications.

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Originally Posted By: JHZR2

I'd be concerned about using Cu anti seize on Al parts (first world problem,


Yet, the Permatex site states this use on their Copper antiseize page: "Spark plug threads installed in aluminum"?????

I once called the Permatex tech. number for answers but I am still scratching my head like most of us.

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Re: Anti-seize application guide? [Re: doitmyself] #4809035
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Originally Posted By: doitmyself
Originally Posted By: JHZR2

I'd be concerned about using Cu anti seize on Al parts (first world problem,


Yet, the Permatex site states this use on their Copper antiseize page: "Spark plug threads installed in aluminum"?????

I once called the Permatex tech. number for answers but I am still scratching my head like most of us.


I have used copper on every single plug thread and 02 sensor in 45 years and not one issue. Unless your a working pro that is probably more plugs than 50 people will do in a life time.
Copper is a great conductor for the ground.

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