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#4808370 - 07/08/18 01:19 PM ST or PPPP 0w20?
gabriel9766 Offline


Registered: 05/10/15
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Loc: Missouri
I kinda talked bout this in my last post, this is my real Q. I dont see any UAO'S on ST 0w20 but plenty of Pennzoil. Price difference is $15.88 vs like $22.88. Money is not a problem, just thought maybe ST would be worth a try. Ive had plenty good UAO'S on PPPP. Just dont kno much bout ST 0w20. This oil will be used in the Malibu. Both oils are dexos1 gen 2 certified.


Edited by gabriel9766 (07/08/18 01:20 PM)
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#4808378 - 07/08/18 01:35 PM Re: ST or PPPP 0w20? [Re: gabriel9766]
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Registered: 08/27/04
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The ST user (or any "value" brand user) is less likely to do a UOA on the oil vs one that buys a name brand oil.

ST oil is a good oil and will do manufacture recommendation intervals with no issues, with the ST synthetic giving better protection overall compared to ST conventional.

While I have a bunch of name brand oil, it is all from clearance and sales. If I had to walk into walmart and pay full price for an oil, it would be ST (and I did exactly that when I bought my motorcycle, needed some 15w-40, I had none, Walmart had their ST Diesel 10w-40 for $10/gallon).
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#4808384 - 07/08/18 01:48 PM Re: ST or PPPP 0w20? [Re: gabriel9766]
klt1986 Offline


Registered: 04/08/09
Posts: 393
Loc: Southern VA
I'd use the Platinum myself as I think it is a better oil. In addition, with the Pennzoil rebate going on it is actually cheaper than the ST.


Edited by klt1986 (07/08/18 01:51 PM)
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#4808388 - 07/08/18 01:51 PM Re: ST or PPPP 0w20? [Re: blupupher]
gabriel9766 Offline


Registered: 05/10/15
Posts: 943
Loc: Missouri
Originally Posted By: blupupher
The ST user (or any "value" brand user) is less likely to do a UOA on the oil vs one that buys a name brand oil.

ST oil is a good oil and will do manufacture recommendation intervals with no issues, with the ST synthetic giving better protection overall compared to ST conventional.

While I have a bunch of name brand oil, it is all from clearance and sales. If I had to walk into walmart and pay full price for an oil, it would be ST (and I did exactly that when I bought my motorcycle, needed some 15w-40, I had none, Walmart had their ST Diesel 10w-40 for $10/gallon).
i figure maybe why not give it a try, i mean It's D1 gen 2 certified.
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#4808391 - 07/08/18 01:54 PM Re: ST or PPPP 0w20? [Re: klt1986]
turnbowm Offline


Registered: 05/14/15
Posts: 189
Loc: So. Calif.
Originally Posted By: klt1986
I'd use the Platinum myself as I think it is a better oil. In addition, with the Pennzoil rebate going on it is actually cheaper than the ST.

Yep, $13 (after rebate) for a 5-quart jug of Platinum D1G2 synthetic is a no-brainer!
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#4808398 - 07/08/18 02:08 PM Re: ST or PPPP 0w20? [Re: turnbowm]
CR94 Offline


Registered: 03/20/16
Posts: 1180
Loc: Western S.C. since 1996
Originally Posted By: turnbowm
... Yep, $13 (after rebate) for a 5-quart jug of Platinum D1G2 synthetic is a no-brainer!
Where are you finding it for $23? WalMarts here haven't budged from $27.76 any time this year. Not in Kentucky when I looked there in January and April, either.


Edited by CR94 (07/08/18 02:08 PM)
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#4808400 - 07/08/18 02:09 PM Re: ST or PPPP 0w20? [Re: gabriel9766]
aquariuscsm Offline


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At WM here it's says $27 on the shelf sticker,but rings up at $22.
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#4808402 - 07/08/18 02:11 PM Re: ST or PPPP 0w20? [Re: aquariuscsm]
klt1986 Offline


Registered: 04/08/09
Posts: 393
Loc: Southern VA
Originally Posted By: aquariuscsm
At WM here it's says $27 on the shelf sticker,but rings up at $22.


Does the same thing here.
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#4808406 - 07/08/18 02:15 PM Re: ST or PPPP 0w20? [Re: turnbowm]
Snagglefoot Offline


Registered: 12/31/17
Posts: 1909
Loc: SE British Columbia, Canada
Originally Posted By: turnbowm
Originally Posted By: klt1986
I'd use the Platinum myself as I think it is a better oil. In addition, with the Pennzoil rebate going on it is actually cheaper than the ST.

Yep, $13 (after rebate) for a 5-quart jug of Platinum D1G2 synthetic is a no-brainer!


Yep. Simple. Get to your Pennzoil MIR quota for the year. THEN buy ST.


Edited by Snagglefoot (07/08/18 02:16 PM)

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#4808407 - 07/08/18 02:15 PM Re: ST or PPPP 0w20? [Re: gabriel9766]
mx5miata Offline


Registered: 03/28/10
Posts: 560
Loc: NY
Buy the ST and the money saved get 2 big Macs.
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#4808427 - 07/08/18 02:45 PM Re: ST or PPPP 0w20? [Re: gabriel9766]
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A couple of thoughts:

1. ST 0W-20 has not been widely available until recently which may explain the lack of UOAs.

2. With all of the rebates from the majors, ST has not been overly attractive from a pricing perspective.

What OCI are you considering?
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#4808432 - 07/08/18 02:52 PM Re: ST or PPPP 0w20? [Re: 2015_PSD]
gabriel9766 Offline


Registered: 05/10/15
Posts: 943
Loc: Missouri
Originally Posted By: 2015_PSD
A couple of thoughts:

1. ST 0W-20 has not been widely available until recently which may explain the lack of UOAs.

2. With all of the rebates from the majors, ST has not been overly attractive from a pricing perspective.

What OCI are you considering?
Well figure id try it and post a UAO on it.

OCI is based off the OLM which i run to about 15% which is usually 5-6K.


Edited by gabriel9766 (07/08/18 02:52 PM)
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#4808435 - 07/08/18 02:57 PM Re: ST or PPPP 0w20? [Re: CR94]
turnbowm Offline


Registered: 05/14/15
Posts: 189
Loc: So. Calif.
Originally Posted By: CR94
Originally Posted By: turnbowm
... Yep, $13 (after rebate) for a 5-quart jug of Platinum D1G2 synthetic is a no-brainer!
Where are you finding it for $23? WalMarts here haven't budged from $27.76 any time this year. Not in Kentucky when I looked there in January and April, either.

Walmart did a Price Rollback somewhat recently and the price dropped from $28 to $23. As others have said, sometimes the actual (scanned) price is lower than the price shown on the shelf.
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#4808444 - 07/08/18 03:17 PM Re: ST or PPPP 0w20? [Re: turnbowm]
CR94 Offline


Registered: 03/20/16
Posts: 1180
Loc: Western S.C. since 1996
Originally Posted By: turnbowm
Originally Posted By: CR94
Where are you finding it for $23? WalMarts here haven't budged from $27.76 any time this year. Not in Kentucky when I looked there in January and April, either.

Walmart did a Price Rollback somewhat recently and the price dropped from $28 to $23. As others have said, sometimes the actual (scanned) price is lower than the price shown on the shelf.
I checked for that possibility a couple of months ago. The scanner said $27.76, same as the tag on the shelf. I'll try again shortly.
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#4808650 - 07/08/18 08:25 PM Re: ST or PPPP 0w20? [Re: gabriel9766]
jongies3 Offline


Registered: 03/11/16
Posts: 846
Loc: MT
Pennzoil
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