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ST or PPPP 0w20? #4808370
07/08/18 01:19 PM
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gabriel9766 Offline OP
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I kinda talked bout this in my last post, this is my real Q. I dont see any UAO'S on ST 0w20 but plenty of Pennzoil. Price difference is $15.88 vs like $22.88. Money is not a problem, just thought maybe ST would be worth a try. Ive had plenty good UAO'S on PPPP. Just dont kno much bout ST 0w20. This oil will be used in the Malibu. Both oils are dexos1 gen 2 certified.

Last edited by gabriel9766; 07/08/18 01:20 PM.

2015 Malibu LT 2.5L PPPP 0w20 46.1K
2007 Escape XLT 3.0L 5Q STHM 5w30/1Q MC full syn 5W20 115K
2010 Fusion SE 2.5L MC 0w20 110K
2008 Escape XLT 2.3L MC 5w30 187K
2007 Fusion SE 2.3L- 173.5K STHM 0W20
Re: ST or PPPP 0w20? [Re: gabriel9766] #4808378
07/08/18 01:35 PM
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The ST user (or any "value" brand user) is less likely to do a UOA on the oil vs one that buys a name brand oil.

ST oil is a good oil and will do manufacture recommendation intervals with no issues, with the ST synthetic giving better protection overall compared to ST conventional.

While I have a bunch of name brand oil, it is all from clearance and sales. If I had to walk into walmart and pay full price for an oil, it would be ST (and I did exactly that when I bought my motorcycle, needed some 15w-40, I had none, Walmart had their ST Diesel 10w-40 for $10/gallon).


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Re: ST or PPPP 0w20? [Re: gabriel9766] #4808384
07/08/18 01:48 PM
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Southern VA
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I'd use the Platinum myself as I think it is a better oil. In addition, with the Pennzoil rebate going on it is actually cheaper than the ST.

Last edited by klt1986; 07/08/18 01:51 PM.

Wife: 08 Honda CR-V 4WD, M1 5W-20
Me: 11 Toyota Tundra DC 4WD 5.7L, PP 5W-30
Me Work: 06 Ford Explorer 4WD 4.0L, Pennzoil 5W-30
Son: 14 Toyota Corolla S, M1 AFE 0W-20
Re: ST or PPPP 0w20? [Re: blupupher] #4808388
07/08/18 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted By: blupupher
The ST user (or any "value" brand user) is less likely to do a UOA on the oil vs one that buys a name brand oil.

ST oil is a good oil and will do manufacture recommendation intervals with no issues, with the ST synthetic giving better protection overall compared to ST conventional.

While I have a bunch of name brand oil, it is all from clearance and sales. If I had to walk into walmart and pay full price for an oil, it would be ST (and I did exactly that when I bought my motorcycle, needed some 15w-40, I had none, Walmart had their ST Diesel 10w-40 for $10/gallon).
i figure maybe why not give it a try, i mean It's D1 gen 2 certified.


2015 Malibu LT 2.5L PPPP 0w20 46.1K
2007 Escape XLT 3.0L 5Q STHM 5w30/1Q MC full syn 5W20 115K
2010 Fusion SE 2.5L MC 0w20 110K
2008 Escape XLT 2.3L MC 5w30 187K
2007 Fusion SE 2.3L- 173.5K STHM 0W20
Re: ST or PPPP 0w20? [Re: klt1986] #4808391
07/08/18 01:54 PM
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So. Calif.
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Originally Posted By: klt1986
I'd use the Platinum myself as I think it is a better oil. In addition, with the Pennzoil rebate going on it is actually cheaper than the ST.

Yep, $13 (after rebate) for a 5-quart jug of Platinum D1G2 synthetic is a no-brainer!


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Re: ST or PPPP 0w20? [Re: turnbowm] #4808398
07/08/18 02:08 PM
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Originally Posted By: turnbowm
... Yep, $13 (after rebate) for a 5-quart jug of Platinum D1G2 synthetic is a no-brainer!
Where are you finding it for $23? WalMarts here haven't budged from $27.76 any time this year. Not in Kentucky when I looked there in January and April, either.

Last edited by CR94; 07/08/18 02:08 PM.

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Re: ST or PPPP 0w20? [Re: gabriel9766] #4808400
07/08/18 02:09 PM
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At WM here it's says $27 on the shelf sticker,but rings up at $22.


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2012 Honda Accord Coupe EX-L 2.4,auto,San Marino Red
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Re: ST or PPPP 0w20? [Re: aquariuscsm] #4808402
07/08/18 02:11 PM
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Originally Posted By: aquariuscsm
At WM here it's says $27 on the shelf sticker,but rings up at $22.


Does the same thing here.


Wife: 08 Honda CR-V 4WD, M1 5W-20
Me: 11 Toyota Tundra DC 4WD 5.7L, PP 5W-30
Me Work: 06 Ford Explorer 4WD 4.0L, Pennzoil 5W-30
Son: 14 Toyota Corolla S, M1 AFE 0W-20
Re: ST or PPPP 0w20? [Re: turnbowm] #4808406
07/08/18 02:15 PM
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Originally Posted By: turnbowm
Originally Posted By: klt1986
I'd use the Platinum myself as I think it is a better oil. In addition, with the Pennzoil rebate going on it is actually cheaper than the ST.

Yep, $13 (after rebate) for a 5-quart jug of Platinum D1G2 synthetic is a no-brainer!


Yep. Simple. Get to your Pennzoil MIR quota for the year. THEN buy ST.

Last edited by Snagglefoot; 07/08/18 02:16 PM.

If you want the job done right......do it yourself.
Re: ST or PPPP 0w20? [Re: gabriel9766] #4808407
07/08/18 02:15 PM
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Buy the ST and the money saved get 2 big Macs.


NAPA FULL SYNTHETIC 0w20 Partsplus oil filter
Wix air filter
Re: ST or PPPP 0w20? [Re: gabriel9766] #4808427
07/08/18 02:45 PM
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A couple of thoughts:

1. ST 0W-20 has not been widely available until recently which may explain the lack of UOAs.

2. With all of the rebates from the majors, ST has not been overly attractive from a pricing perspective.

What OCI are you considering?


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2018 MB C300 2.0L - M1 0W-40/OEM
2015 F-250 6.7L PS Diesel - Delo 15W-40/CQ Blue
2014 Explorer 3.5L Limited - M1 AFE 0W-20/FU
Re: ST or PPPP 0w20? [Re: 2015_PSD] #4808432
07/08/18 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted By: 2015_PSD
A couple of thoughts:

1. ST 0W-20 has not been widely available until recently which may explain the lack of UOAs.

2. With all of the rebates from the majors, ST has not been overly attractive from a pricing perspective.

What OCI are you considering?
Well figure id try it and post a UAO on it.

OCI is based off the OLM which i run to about 15% which is usually 5-6K.

Last edited by gabriel9766; 07/08/18 02:52 PM.

2015 Malibu LT 2.5L PPPP 0w20 46.1K
2007 Escape XLT 3.0L 5Q STHM 5w30/1Q MC full syn 5W20 115K
2010 Fusion SE 2.5L MC 0w20 110K
2008 Escape XLT 2.3L MC 5w30 187K
2007 Fusion SE 2.3L- 173.5K STHM 0W20
Re: ST or PPPP 0w20? [Re: CR94] #4808435
07/08/18 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted By: CR94
Originally Posted By: turnbowm
... Yep, $13 (after rebate) for a 5-quart jug of Platinum D1G2 synthetic is a no-brainer!
Where are you finding it for $23? WalMarts here haven't budged from $27.76 any time this year. Not in Kentucky when I looked there in January and April, either.

Walmart did a Price Rollback somewhat recently and the price dropped from $28 to $23. As others have said, sometimes the actual (scanned) price is lower than the price shown on the shelf.


2015 Kia Optima EX 2.4L GDI
2015 Chevy Volt
Re: ST or PPPP 0w20? [Re: turnbowm] #4808444
07/08/18 03:17 PM
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Originally Posted By: turnbowm
Originally Posted By: CR94
Where are you finding it for $23? WalMarts here haven't budged from $27.76 any time this year. Not in Kentucky when I looked there in January and April, either.

Walmart did a Price Rollback somewhat recently and the price dropped from $28 to $23. As others have said, sometimes the actual (scanned) price is lower than the price shown on the shelf.
I checked for that possibility a couple of months ago. The scanner said $27.76, same as the tag on the shelf. I'll try again shortly.


2011 Toyota Prius now at 92K
1981 Mazda GLC (323) retired at 606K
1972 Subaru DL retired at 190K
1954 Chevrolet retired at 121K
Re: ST or PPPP 0w20? [Re: gabriel9766] #4808650
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Pennzoil


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