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NAPA synthetic oil SN Plus Product Information #4806833
07/06/18 12:46 PM
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Patrick0525 Offline OP
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Called Valvoline Team for the latest NAPA SN+ data sheet.

0w-20,5w-20,5w-30,10w-30 and 20w-50



'14 Toyota Venza 3.5L 70K mi
TGMO 0W-20/Toyota filter (winter)
PP 0W-20/Fram Ultra filter(spring/summer)


Re: NAPA synthetic oil SN Plus Product Information [Re: Patrick0525] #4806844
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I sure would feel a lot better about that new SN+ if the NOAK was a bit lower.


2004 Corolla 126813
Out: VML 5w-30 TG4967 OCI 5007 Miles
In: EDGE EP 5W-30 Bosch 3311 122537 7-18-18
2006 Duramax 74478
Out: T6 5W-40 M1-303
In: T6 5W-40 XG9100 73705 4-22-18
Re: NAPA synthetic oil SN Plus Product Information [Re: JohnnyJohnson] #4806852
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Originally Posted By: JohnnyJohnson
I sure would feel a lot better about that new SN+ if the NOAK was a bit lower.


Me too

Although synthetic valvoline or "advanced syn" 5w20 is 7% or somethin


09' Camry LE, 141,020 miles

PP 5w30 and TG 4967
Re: NAPA synthetic oil SN Plus Product Information [Re: Patrick0525] #4806863
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They don't say what the Noack is, just that it's below 13%. I doubt they want to undercut the mothership. Feels good in my vehicles though.

Thanks for sharing, OP. SN Plus and d1G2 are all i want.


18 Sportage 2.4L AWD: Mobil1 Annual Protection 5W20 + Mobil1-104A + e air WIX10335
13 Santa Fe Sport 2.0T: Pennzoil Platinum 10W30 + FRAM XG9688 + e air WIX49670

Re: NAPA synthetic oil SN Plus Product Information [Re: Patrick0525] #4806878
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13% is just the maximum NOACK loss for dexos1 Gen 2 and 15% is the limit for either SN or GF5, can't remember which.
The CCS and MRV numbers shown are also just the maximum values for the grades shown.
So, there really isn't any meaningful info about these particular oils given for those parameters, just spec limits.
I am surprised that the VI is higher for the 5W20 than the 0W20! Don't quite get that.

I'm sure these are all quite serviceable oils!


2014 Forester XT, 90000 miles
Last Change;
M1 5W30 d1G2
Tokyo Roki 15208AA170 filter
Re: NAPA synthetic oil SN Plus Product Information [Re: Patrick0525] #4806889
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Exactly ^

Valvoline used to do the same thing for all their
oils. The "conventional" may still show this way.


18 Sportage 2.4L AWD: Mobil1 Annual Protection 5W20 + Mobil1-104A + e air WIX10335
13 Santa Fe Sport 2.0T: Pennzoil Platinum 10W30 + FRAM XG9688 + e air WIX49670

Re: NAPA synthetic oil SN Plus Product Information [Re: Virtus_Probi] #4807024
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Originally Posted By: Virtus_Probi
13% is just the maximum NOACK loss for dexos1 Gen 2 and 15% is the limit for either SN or GF5, can't remember which.
The CCS and MRV numbers shown are also just the maximum values for the grades shown.
So, there really isn't any meaningful info about these particular oils given for those parameters, just spec limits.
I am surprised that the VI is higher for the 5W20 than the 0W20! Don't quite get that.

I'm sure these are all quite serviceable oils!



Yep, some of these figures like Noack are just the spec limit - which it meets, they are not the real numbers or data measured directly on the oil. I'm sure they have the real numbers, it would be nice of they shared them.

All the VI are very close, I was expecting a bigger difference.

I'm sure they are all good oils. If cold starting is not an issue, I would select the oil with the highest density and the highest FP, that would be a suitable viscosity grade for my application.


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Castrol GTX Ultraclean 15W40 A3/B3 + Wesfil-Cooper Z154
Re: NAPA synthetic oil SN Plus Product Information [Re: Patrick0525] #4807074
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I am planning to use the Napa 15w-50 to do my zero turn mower hydro gear transmission.


'14 Toyota Venza 3.5L 70K mi
TGMO 0W-20/Toyota filter (winter)
PP 0W-20/Fram Ultra filter(spring/summer)


Re: NAPA synthetic oil SN Plus Product Information [Re: 53' Stude] #4807714
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Originally Posted By: car51
Originally Posted By: JohnnyJohnson
I sure would feel a lot better about that new SN+ if the NOAK was a bit lower.


Me too

Although synthetic valvoline or "advanced syn" 5w20 is 7% or somethin



I wonder if the NAPA syn. 5w20 has the same or similar low NOACK as it's Valvoline cousin? If so, it's a great deal.....I just picked up 6 quarts on the last day of the $2.99 sale.....


'Journalism is Dead'
Re: NAPA synthetic oil SN Plus Product Information [Re: Patrick0525] #4810276
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even within a certain classification the base oil quality varies + cheaper oils prolly buy + use cheaper lower quality base oils within the spec!!! cheaper for a reason


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