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New car - dealer says change oil every 3000 mi #4806793
07/06/18 12:51 PM
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Bought new Hyundai Elantra for run around car..
Dealer says due to the fact we’re in western Colorado the Mobil 1 5-20 must be changed every 3000 miles
You gotta be kidding me. I might have passed on the car had I known this.
They said it gets very hot here, true, and dusty at times.
Well, I’ll do it myself, as always, and keep receipts.

Last edited by wwillson; 07/06/18 02:11 PM. Reason: subject clarification
Re: New car - dealer says change oil every 3000 mi [Re: dbvettez061] #4806794
07/06/18 12:55 PM
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What does the owner's manual say? Quote them from there, and take it up with Hyundai Corporate if you so desire. Me I buy the car, and hope that's the last time I see the dealer until I'm ready to buy another car. The less I have to do with them the better.


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Re: New car - dealer says change oil every 3000 mi [Re: dbvettez061] #4806796
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If that were me buying a new car from them, I would say "Ok...I'll buy it here, on the condition you give me free oil change service at this dealership for life"


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Re: New car - dealer says change oil every 3000 mi [Re: dbvettez061] #4806797
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I would do 5-6K OCI's and not think twice about it. IIRC, a Hyundai Tucson I had a while back had a similar severe use schedule. I still did 5k intervals.


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Re: New car - dealer says change oil every 3000 mi [Re: dbvettez061] #4806798
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Does not Hyundai have a severe service schedule of 3750 miles? That’s probably what the dealer is referring to.


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Re: New car - dealer says change oil every 3000 mi [Re: Greg L] #4806799
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Originally Posted By: Greg L
If that were me buying a new car from them, I would say "Ok...I'll buy it here, on the condition you give me free oil change service at this dealership for life"


If I can't trust them to give me the proper service advise, I certainly wouldn't trust them to actually service it. Especially for free. wink God only knows what would happen, and I don't have the time to baby sit them.

If the price was right I'd buy it and that would be the last they see of me.


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Re: New car - dealer says change oil every 3000 mi [Re: dbvettez061] #4806802
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My Nissan has such a small sump that keeping only 3.25 qts. of oil over the severe service recommendation they have would make me worry about the engine. Nissan recommends 3750 miles for severe service. I change it every 3000 to make the math easier.

Demarpaint I agree with you. The less I see of the dealer the happier I am. I do ALL of my own work on the car. Uh oh, on my Versa Note it has a sealed transmission so I can't do the fluid change at home. I am pretty certain this is due to clueless owners who will not do the work it takes to keep a car running well. So we are punished for it by having sealed systems so the dealer will do the job. So far that is the ONLY thing I have taken my car into the dealership for. Oh that and the recalls. I will not ever buy a sealed system car again.


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Re: New car - dealer says change oil every 3000 mi [Re: dbvettez061] #4806809
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stealers NEVER see me after the sale be it new or preowned!!! they can RECOMMEND, but if REQUIRED it must be FREE by law. if concerned about oil lasting after break in use a REAL synthetic oil like Redline also a 5-30 would be a better choice providing a thicker oil film IMO as todays recommended xxW20 oils are for meeting the EPA's mileage + not a longer lasting engine!!!

Re: New car - dealer says change oil every 3000 mi [Re: dbvettez061] #4806812
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Also, since Hyundai has a 100000 mile drivetrain 10,year warranty, guess it covers they’re butts.


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Re: New car - dealer says change oil every 3000 mi [Re: dbvettez061] #4806815
07/06/18 01:21 PM
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Do what the owner's manual says, and keep receipts and records.

Sorry, but Colorado has got nothing on Phoenix as far as temperature and dust. And I don't think the heat here matters much anyways.


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Re: New car - dealer says change oil every 3000 mi [Re: dbvettez061] #4806816
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"Must"? Get THAT in writing. LOL

If it is turbo and DI, maybe...as always check the owner's manual....


I'm a thickie; but a 20 has its place.

I use AMSOIL™

Hers: 2008 Jeep Liberty 138k, SS 5w30/Amsoil

His: 2015 4Runner 41k, OE 5w20/Wix

Re: New car - dealer says change oil every 3000 mi [Re: dbvettez061] #4806824
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IMHO, due to their (and Kia) engines' designs and build materials used - do 4k miles OCIs and either OEM or a quality filter.
Don't kill your engine at 100-150k miles.

Re: New car - dealer says change oil every 3000 mi [Re: dbvettez061] #4806831
07/06/18 01:42 PM
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I just lookad at your owner’s manual.

Every 7500 miles service. Unless you are driving hard condition or sitting traffic in hot temp etc then 3700 miles OCI.

5w20, 5w30 or 10w30 is recommended

https://www.hyundaiusa.com/myhyundaicont..._elantra_om.pdf


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Re: New car - dealer says change oil every 3000 mi [Re: dbvettez061] #4806837
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Unfortunately, some of these dealer people are so inarticulate that you don't know if they're trying to get you in the service bay every 3K miles or referring to the 3750 mile "severe" schedule. In either case, I'd change it every 5K miles if you have the 2.0 liter Atkinson Cycle engine, drive normally, and are changing it yourself. This basically splits the difference between the normal and severe schedules and what I would do anyway.

Re: New car - dealer says change oil every 3000 mi [Re: benjy] #4806846
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Originally Posted By: benjy
stealers NEVER see me after the sale be it new or preowned!!! they can RECOMMEND, but if REQUIRED it must be FREE by law. if concerned about oil lasting after break in use a REAL synthetic oil like Redline also a 5-30 would be a better choice providing a thicker oil film IMO as todays recommended xxW20 oils are for meeting the EPA's mileage + not a longer lasting engine!!!

Wow! It has been a while since I have seen such a post full of inaccurate statements.

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