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Re: What Is Mobil Super Synthetic Motor Oil? [Re: slacktide_bitog] #4806566 07/06/18 08:45 AM
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Originally Posted By: slacktide_bitog
It's XOM's lower tier synthetic, the same class as QSUD, Havoline, Magnatec, and the house brands. Mobil Super Synthetic is also synthetic TGMO


I doubt that. Toyotas using TGMO have a 10,000 mile oil change as their regular interval.

Re: What Is Mobil Super Synthetic Motor Oil? [Re: Hot_Ajax] #4806573 07/06/18 08:49 AM
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Mobil dropped the 7500 series synthetic blend oil and seems they replaced it with their Super Synthetic, which by all accounts seems to be a decent Group III oil which I would think would still be useful for 7500 miles. We routinely go up to 10k miles on M1. So where would you use the Super Synthetic? I would use it where the person wants to stay with 5 or 6k miles oil change intervals. Of course that is purely my opinion based on my experience.

Re: What Is Mobil Super Synthetic Motor Oil? [Re: slacktide_bitog] #4806630 07/06/18 09:41 AM
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Originally Posted By: slacktide_bitog
It's XOM's lower tier synthetic, the same class as QSUD, Havoline, Magnatec, and the house brands. Mobil Super Synthetic is also synthetic TGMO


I would say that QSUD is equal to or better than M1.

Re: What Is Mobil Super Synthetic Motor Oil? [Re: Brigadier] #4806651 07/06/18 10:10 AM
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Originally Posted By: Brigadier
Originally Posted By: slacktide_bitog
It's XOM's lower tier synthetic, the same class as QSUD, Havoline, Magnatec, and the house brands. Mobil Super Synthetic is also synthetic TGMO


I would say that QSUD is equal to or better than M1.



Based on what specifications?


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Re: What Is Mobil Super Synthetic Motor Oil? [Re: Hot_Ajax] #4806660 07/06/18 10:19 AM
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I have used MSS in the 2015 Chevy Sonix 1.8l automatic . It is Dexos Gen 1 , or was at the time . May or may not be Gen 2 , now .

I run 4000 - 4500 mile OCI and as far as I know , it worked fine .


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Re: What Is Mobil Super Synthetic Motor Oil? [Re: PimTac] #4806696 07/06/18 10:57 AM
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What more do you need? QSUD
Originally Posted By: PimTac
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Originally Posted By: slacktide_bitog
It's XOM's lower tier synthetic, the same class as QSUD, Havoline, Magnatec, and the house brands. Mobil Super Synthetic is also synthetic TGMO


I would say that QSUD is equal to or better than M1.



Based on what specifications?




Re: What Is Mobil Super Synthetic Motor Oil? [Re: tenderloin] #4806712 07/06/18 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted By: tenderloin
What more do you need? QSUD
Originally Posted By: PimTac
Originally Posted By: Brigadier
Originally Posted By: slacktide_bitog
It's XOM's lower tier synthetic, the same class as QSUD, Havoline, Magnatec, and the house brands. Mobil Super Synthetic is also synthetic TGMO


I would say that QSUD is equal to or better than M1.



Based on what specifications?





So it is:
- API SN Plus
- Ford WSS-M2C946-A
- DEXOS 1 Gen 2
- Chrysler MS-6395

M1 5w-30 is:
- API SN
- ACEA A1/B1, A5/B5
- Ford WSS-M2C946-A
- Ford WSS-M2C929-A
- DEXOS 1 Gen 2
- Honda HTO-06

It would seem that specification/approval-wise, the Mobil product is still ahead shrug


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Re: What Is Mobil Super Synthetic Motor Oil? [Re: Hot_Ajax] #4806714 07/06/18 11:19 AM
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I didnít see tenderloinís response, hidden in the quote.

Thanks Overkill.


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Re: What Is Mobil Super Synthetic Motor Oil? [Re: OVERKILL] #4806725 07/06/18 11:34 AM
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A few of those M1 specs listed are outdated specs. The ones listed by QS are the newer specs not specs no longer used. M1 is a great oil I have plenty but so is QSUD.

BTW on a bottle of 5W30 QUSD it lists ISLAC GF-5 API SN ACEA A5-02 GM 6094m GM 4718M Chyrsler MS 6395 Ford WSS M2C946A Honda HTO-6 Dexos 1 2

Re: What Is Mobil Super Synthetic Motor Oil? [Re: tenderloin] #4806728 07/06/18 11:41 AM
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Originally Posted By: tenderloin
A few of those M1 specs listed are outdated specs. The ones listed by QS are the newer specs not specs no longer used. M1 is a great oil I have plenty but so is QSUD.

BTW on a bottle of 5W30 QUSD it lists ISLAC GF-5 API SN ACEA A5-02 GM 6094m GM 4718M Chyrsler MS 6395 Ford WSS M2C946A Honda HTO-6 Dexos 1 2


Interesting that they list the ACEA spec on the bottle but it clearly says N/A on the PDS. How old is that bottle? I didn't bother listing the GM specs above for the Mobil product because they were all replaced by DEXOS IIRC.


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Re: What Is Mobil Super Synthetic Motor Oil? [Re: OVERKILL] #4806743 07/06/18 11:57 AM
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The bottle is 2016 dexos1 Gen 2

My point was not to get in a pi$$in contest but only to show that QSUD is an excellent oil and from what I see not a second tier one..

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Originally Posted By: tenderloin
The bottle is 2016 dexos1 Gen 2

My point was not to get in a pi$$in contest but only to show that QSUD is an excellent oil and from what I see not a second tier one..






Thanks for clearing that up. Both are good oils.


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Re: What Is Mobil Super Synthetic Motor Oil? [Re: Hot_Ajax] #4806757 07/06/18 12:06 PM
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Iíd suspect that this particular oil is used a lot at Mobilís Quik Lube as their budget offering.


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Re: What Is Mobil Super Synthetic Motor Oil? [Re: Hot_Ajax] #4806764 07/06/18 12:13 PM
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Quaker State is not the equal to Pennzoil Platinum, which is aligned next to Mobil-1 and Castrol Edge. I would align Quaker State with Valvoline thou.

I don't rate - nor run my oils for any length, based solely on specs. I run my oil lengths based on performance-first. One doesn't need a UOA to see when a oil is spent, or when it's showing streaks, bubbles, color differentials......etc..... Don;t need a UOA to hear when the engine sounds louder or quieter during any specific OCI.

I do know this, thru much experience. Mobil-1 is a louder oil than Quaker State. No idea if that loudness applies to EP, or the new 20K Mobil-1. I refuse to spend that much money on 15-20k oils, running my normal 7K OCIs.


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Re: What Is Mobil Super Synthetic Motor Oil? [Re: tenderloin] #4806765 07/06/18 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted By: tenderloin
A few of those M1 specs listed are outdated specs. The ones listed by QS are the newer specs not specs no longer used. M1 is a great oil I have plenty but so is QSUD.

BTW on a bottle of 5W30 QUSD it lists ISLAC GF-5 API SN ACEA A5-02 GM 6094m GM 4718M Chyrsler MS 6395 Ford WSS M2C946A Honda HTO-6 Dexos 1 2



Are you talking about the newest QUD bottles, with the different Quakerstate bottles on the back and the number of stars rating system? I didn't see the Honda HTO-06 listed on those, but, it is listed on the older bottles.

The product data sheet for QUD doesn't list the Honda HTO-06 either.

Seems like when QUD went to the SN Plus, it lost it.

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