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A-1 Cardone or ACDelco? #4805547
07/05/18 07:49 AM
07/05/18 07:49 AM
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Battle Creek, MI
SVTCobra Offline OP
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Have a 95 Ford F350 and the driver side front window motor is no good. Would go Motorcraft but its a little pricey and need to get the truck going. What is preferred for window motors? Rebuilt A-1 Cardone or brand new ACDelco? Price is similar.


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Re: A-1 Cardone or ACDelco? [Re: SVTCobra] #4805549
07/05/18 07:52 AM
07/05/18 07:52 AM
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I would just buy the cheapest no-name one off eBay. Done it twice so far, and so far so good.

Having said that, if you are handy sometimes you can do things to the motor like replace the brushes, etc.

Re: A-1 Cardone or ACDelco? [Re: SVTCobra] #4805580
07/05/18 08:13 AM
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Please spend the extra and buy Motorcraft, look for NOS or new on ebay too, sometimes you luck out and get a super deal.
Never buy Cardone anything, I have gone through more junk than I care to think about from them over the years.
Its the labor to keep changing bad parts that breaks the camels back.

4 defective wiper motors in a row all failed within days, new Motorcraft worked perfectly the first time and is still working in that car. Delco is hit and miss, they were good at one time but today its a real carp shoot, not as bad as Cardone or Atsco and others but not good either.


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Re: A-1 Cardone or ACDelco? [Re: SVTCobra] #4805584
07/05/18 08:14 AM
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ACdelco is an OEM for GM. So that should be better than A1.

I usually check to see if the pictures for the item are the same. If they are then they are likely the same part.


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Re: A-1 Cardone or ACDelco? [Re: thescreensavers] #4805624
07/05/18 08:41 AM
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There are many different parts to ACDelco, OE and aftermarket, they are not the same in quality. You cannot go by looks, its absolutely meaningless, Walbro fuel pumps is a good example.

http://walbrofuelpumps.com/best-tips-for-spotting-fake-walbro-255


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Re: A-1 Cardone or ACDelco? [Re: SVTCobra] #4805634
07/05/18 08:52 AM
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There is a Ford Motorcraft motor that I found earlier on Rockauto for only $18 more than the ACDelco - the only rub is there isn't any pictures (description matches though) but its sold without a core charge and it's labeled High Level Service Design; Kit.

A quick internet search found a recent post on another forum that means its a lower tier Motorcraft part designed for older vehicles that don't need to last as long and therefore isn't OEM quality.

I think I will go with that as its $55 shipped and a rebuilt Motorcraft part is close to $100 shipped and should be better than the normal aftermarket stuff.


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Re: A-1 Cardone or ACDelco? [Re: SVTCobra] #4805650
07/05/18 09:08 AM
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Service grade new is decent, they still have to meet all Motorcraft test and QC and be suitable for dealer service use on older vehicles.


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Re: A-1 Cardone or ACDelco? [Re: SVTCobra] #4805676
07/05/18 09:24 AM
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Donít buy cheap and have it die in the lowered position just before a good rain.

Iíd go to a junkyard before A1 Cardone personally.

Last edited by dlundblad; 07/05/18 09:25 AM.

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Re: A-1 Cardone or ACDelco? [Re: SVTCobra] #4805692
07/05/18 09:32 AM
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Get the Motorcraft motor

Re: A-1 Cardone or ACDelco? [Re: Trav] #4805742
07/05/18 10:50 AM
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Battle Creek, MI
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Originally Posted By: Trav
Service grade new is decent, they still have to meet all Motorcraft test and QC and be suitable for dealer service use on older vehicles.

Thanks for the explanation. The original lasted 23 years and 335k miles, so I want something that will last but doesn't have to be another 335k miles.


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Re: A-1 Cardone or ACDelco? [Re: SVTCobra] #4805791
07/05/18 11:26 AM
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Avoid Cardonít/A1 Car-be-done.

ACDelco is likely to be a reboxed part. If at all possible, buy the Motorcraft.


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Re: A-1 Cardone or ACDelco? [Re: SVTCobra] #4805923
07/05/18 01:25 PM
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I'll say it this way, I'd have a hard time trusting a parts company that was named "A1 Car done". It just seems like the cheapest, most panderous jobber [censored] brand available.


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Re: A-1 Cardone or ACDelco? [Re: PeterPolyol] #4805938
07/05/18 01:34 PM
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VW Fanboy Island
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Originally Posted By: PeterPolyol
I'll say it this way, I'd have a hard time trusting a parts company that was named "A1 Car done". It just seems like the cheapest, most panderous jobber [censored] brand available.

That and Dorman, what a stupid name. Both of them suck!


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Re: A-1 Cardone or ACDelco? [Re: SVTCobra] #4805981
07/05/18 02:07 PM
07/05/18 02:07 PM
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A Highway Near You
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If you buy AC Delco...if it is an "Advantage" part...it is China made likely...and quality is....well...... As much work as a window motor does and the PITA it is to change (or have it fail) I would go OE.


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Re: A-1 Cardone or ACDelco? [Re: PiperOne] #4805984
07/05/18 02:13 PM
07/05/18 02:13 PM
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TX
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Some Motorcraft parts made in China.


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