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TPMS "reconditioning" when replacing tires #4804055
07/03/18 01:40 PM
07/03/18 01:40 PM
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mclasser Offline OP
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This my first experience replacing tires on a car with TPMS. I'm currently pricing tires for my Pilot and all the installers are asking for a TPMS "reconditioning" fee, ranging from $5-10/tire.

What exactly is this service, and is it necessary? My TPMS is working fine right now; no warning light or anything.


2018 Hyundai Elantra VE -- 5K
2013 Honda Pilot EX-L 4WD -- 57K
2002 Honda Accord EX-L -- 212K

Re: TPMS "reconditioning" when replacing tires [Re: mclasser] #4804063
07/03/18 01:44 PM
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A what? Guess they want to replace the rim seal on the sensor? Never heard of anyone doing that. Sounds like a total scam.

Last edited by mightymousetech; 07/03/18 01:45 PM.

Mighty Mouse Tech
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2013 BMW 135i M Sport Edition Castrol 0W40, Redline MTL
Re: TPMS "reconditioning" when replacing tires [Re: mclasser] #4804073
07/03/18 01:58 PM
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SoCal
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Originally Posted By: mclasser
This my first experience replacing tires on a car with TPMS. I'm currently pricing tires for my Pilot and all the installers are asking for a TPMS "reconditioning" fee, ranging from $5-10/tire.

What exactly is this service, and is it necessary? My TPMS is working fine right now; no warning light or anything.


They remove the sensor from the wheel, install a new O-ring, and then install a new schrader valve (which they removed to rapidly deflate the tire).

Never had that done, with the shops the replaced tires on my old car.

It's one of those "don't fix if it ain't broke" things.


2016 VW Tiguan|APR Stage 1|Neuspeed P-Flo|Osram CBI|Redline 5w30
Re: TPMS "reconditioning" when replacing tires [Re: mclasser] #4804074
07/03/18 02:00 PM
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DFW
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It's the way they've adjusted to not being able to charge you for new valve stems every time they replace the tires. I'm in the "ain't broke don't fix" camp, too.

Re: TPMS "reconditioning" when replacing tires [Re: mclasser] #4804076
07/03/18 02:03 PM
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This is a standard practice at Discount Tire.


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Re: TPMS "reconditioning" when replacing tires [Re: mclasser] #4804082
07/03/18 02:09 PM
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I would hope that fee might include new batteries in the sensors??? (But i've learned not to assume anything..)


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Re: TPMS "reconditioning" when replacing tires [Re: earlyre] #4804084
07/03/18 02:11 PM
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Ontario, Canada
mightymousetech Offline
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Originally Posted By: earlyre
I would hope that fee might include new batteries in the sensors??? (But i've learned not to assume anything..)


Can't be done. They are sealed.


Mighty Mouse Tech
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Re: TPMS "reconditioning" when replacing tires [Re: mightymousetech] #4804090
07/03/18 02:16 PM
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Originally Posted By: mightymousetech
Originally Posted By: earlyre
I would hope that fee might include new batteries in the sensors??? (But i've learned not to assume anything..)


Can't be done. They are sealed.

There have been guys who cracked open their sensors and replaced the batteries in them - it's a YMMV operation. Those TPMS sensors are sonically welded together and the CR2032 or similar cell has spot-welded tabs, it's generally not a good idea to solder on a lithium coin cell.

Re: TPMS "reconditioning" when replacing tires [Re: mclasser] #4804092
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On my Kawi motorcycle the first year TPMS had replaceable batteries. Any time you took it to a dealer for tire change they took out the originals and replaced with the non serviceable type. Non of the originals really had problems other than needing new battery ever few years. I replaced batteries one time in six years.

Re: TPMS "reconditioning" when replacing tires [Re: mclasser] #4804096
07/03/18 02:18 PM
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FWIW, VDO recommends replacing the nut, grommet, and stem (everything except the sensor itself) with every tire service. Probably not really necessary but can't blame 'em for trying !

Are they asking for this service or requiring it ?

Re: TPMS "reconditioning" when replacing tires [Re: Kawiguy454] #4804106
07/03/18 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted By: Kawiguy454
On my Kawi motorcycle the first year TPMS had replaceable batteries.


I recently had a sensor replaced in my '08 G35 and they gave me the old one. There was a small compartment that was about the size of a 2032 battery and it looked like it could be opened. I didn't try though....

Re: TPMS "reconditioning" when replacing tires [Re: mclasser] #4804118
07/03/18 02:37 PM
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Costco charges $3/tire for this. There's no getting away from it, just like they claim that they will re-balance all tires when doing a rotation. It was explained to me that it's a policy so there's no issues later on down the road that they didn't follow mfg's recommendations.

Last edited by 1000MPH; 07/03/18 02:38 PM.

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Re: TPMS "reconditioning" when replacing tires [Re: mclasser] #4804129
07/03/18 02:41 PM
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From Discount Tire's web page:
Tire Installation: Itemized Costs

The costs included in Discount Tire’s $19 tire and wheel installation include:

Labor
Valve stems
TPMS kits
Mounting
Balancing
Center caps
Visual inspection
Life of Tire Maintenance

I've never heard of TPMS reconditioning.

Re: TPMS "reconditioning" when replacing tires [Re: mclasser] #4804187
07/03/18 03:30 PM
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It's a fee for insurance in case they break yours and you know enough to complain.

Yes, there are those for whom the tire shop broke the TPMS and they had to pay for another.

And, there are those who think when they pay for a service, they shouldn't have to pay a separate fee for them to not screw it up.

I would decline this fee and see where that leads. If the old o-ring is happy where it is, it's not going to spontaneously become unhappy.

Re: TPMS "reconditioning" when replacing tires [Re: mclasser] #4804213
07/03/18 04:01 PM
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Unless you were losing air before, it's a scam.

However, you may want new sensors pre-emptively, at most you can get 5-6 years of driving, the
sensor battery dies and you have to take the tire off the rim to replace!

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