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20W50 VR1 in a Subaru... #4802936
07/02/18 08:26 AM
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Ocala, Florida
racin4ds Offline OP
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Just to make all you thin oil guys cringe, I picked up some Valvoline 20W50 VR1 this weekend at Rural King for $2 a quart! And dare I say, I put it in my '08 Legacy GT! lol The car has 152K miles and I'm sure the thicker vis and extra AW goodies won't hurt it especially in the dead of summer here in Florida.

Amazingly the car starts and runs perfectly normal and has slightly less audible valvetrain noise when hot!

trolling trolling trolling


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Re: 20W50 VR1 in a Subaru... [Re: racin4ds] #4802957
07/02/18 08:50 AM
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Power on!



If you want the job done right......do it yourself.
Re: 20W50 VR1 in a Subaru... [Re: racin4ds] #4802983
07/02/18 09:15 AM
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Indy
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Is rural king clearancing this?!?! Id buy em out at that price!


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Re: 20W50 VR1 in a Subaru... [Re: racin4ds] #4803012
07/02/18 09:52 AM
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Good buy! However, IIRC it isnt recommended for cat equipped vehicles.

Last edited by gman2304; 07/02/18 09:53 AM.
Re: 20W50 VR1 in a Subaru... [Re: racin4ds] #4803029
07/02/18 10:08 AM
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Ajax,Ontario, Canada
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Also I don't think that racing oil is a detergent oil.

Re: 20W50 VR1 in a Subaru... [Re: racin4ds] #4803039
07/02/18 10:18 AM
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Not unusual to me since 50 grade is allowed in the owner's manual. But unless you have a built engine with clearances that call for a 50 grade, there is no benefit IMO.

So built and/or catless or is it stock?


Last edited by bluesubie; 07/02/18 10:24 AM.

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Re: 20W50 VR1 in a Subaru... [Re: racin4ds] #4803171
07/02/18 01:14 PM
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I think it is a poor choice of oil for the street driven Subaru. Doesn't meet specs in any form, high Zinc will kill catalytic converters if used regularly, very low detergent level. Ed


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Re: 20W50 VR1 in a Subaru... [Re: racin4ds] #4803177
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Because Racecar.


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Re: 20W50 VR1 in a Subaru... [Re: Pelican] #4803229
07/02/18 02:12 PM
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Originally Posted By: Pelican
Also I don't think that racing oil is a detergent oil.


I've been using it in my MG, it meets API SL. Wouldn't that still be a detergent oil?

OP: I'd be leary of poisoning your cats with the zinc.

Last edited by Dave Sherman; 07/02/18 02:13 PM.

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Re: 20W50 VR1 in a Subaru... [Re: Pelican] #4803290
07/02/18 03:26 PM
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Originally Posted By: Pelican
Also I don't think that racing oil is a detergent oil.


Yes, it is a detergent oil.


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Re: 20W50 VR1 in a Subaru... [Re: Eddie] #4803637
07/02/18 11:39 PM
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Originally Posted By: Eddie
I think it is a poor choice of oil for the street driven Subaru. Doesn't meet specs in any form, high Zinc will kill catalytic converters if used regularly, very low detergent level. Ed


To hurt the cat, first you have to burn a lot of oil, second, if your state doesn't do emissions testing I wouldn't worry about the cat

Re: 20W50 VR1 in a Subaru... [Re: racin4ds] #4803650
07/03/18 12:38 AM
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Rio Rancho, NM
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Are you going to get an UOA after your OCI?



Respectfully,

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Always remember "Planned obsolescence."

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Re: 20W50 VR1 in a Subaru... [Re: Pelican] #4803655
07/03/18 01:16 AM
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Balearic Islands , Spain
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Originally Posted By: Pelican
Also I don't think that racing oil is a detergent oil.

There are 2 version of VR1, the normal oen and NSL version ( Not street legal ) most places carry the regular stuff which is packed full of detergents like calcium and has a really high starting TBN.


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1988 Ford Escort Mk4 Xr3i Cabrio, - Shell Rimula R4X 15W-40, w/ 30% Helix 3 20W-50.
Re: 20W50 VR1 in a Subaru... [Re: Eddie] #4803656
07/03/18 01:17 AM
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Balearic Islands , Spain
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Originally Posted By: Eddie
I think it is a poor choice of oil for the street driven Subaru. Doesn't meet specs in any form, high Zinc will kill catalytic converters if used regularly, very low detergent level. Ed

The normal street version of VR1 meets API SM and ACEA A3/B4.


1975 Ford Capri II Ghia 3000 V6, - Shell Helix HX3 20W-50 w/ 20% Rimula R4X 15W-40 HDEO.

1988 Ford Escort Mk4 Xr3i Cabrio, - Shell Rimula R4X 15W-40, w/ 30% Helix 3 20W-50.
Re: 20W50 VR1 in a Subaru... [Re: racin4ds] #4803657
07/03/18 01:18 AM
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Balearic Islands , Spain
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Would love to see an UOA of that.


1975 Ford Capri II Ghia 3000 V6, - Shell Helix HX3 20W-50 w/ 20% Rimula R4X 15W-40 HDEO.

1988 Ford Escort Mk4 Xr3i Cabrio, - Shell Rimula R4X 15W-40, w/ 30% Helix 3 20W-50.
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