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ADAC 2018 All-Season Tire Tire.... surprise winner #4802641
07/01/18 08:04 PM
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https://www.adac.de/rund-ums-fahrzeug/reifen/ganzjahresreifen-test/
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Nexen beats out Michelin, Continental, Goodyear and Nokian

Surprise loser, is Michelin.

Test winner: Nexen N blue 4 Season

To solve the goal conflicts succeeds in the test the Nexen N blue 4 Season best. With good performances on wet and ice, the Korean tire on dry and snow-covered road is a bit weaker, but still acceptable. The new AllSeasonContact from Conti , on the other hand, solves the classic conflict of objectives of wetness vs. Snow very well - but at the expense of performance on dry roads.

On dry land, the next-ranked Goodyear Vector 4Seasons Gen-2 and Nokian Wheatherproof are also showing weaknesses. With the exception of the Firestone (worst dry and wet performance), all tires behind it ride on snow only below average - even the most expensive model in the test, the low- wear CrossClimate from Michelin


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Re: ADAC 2018 All-Season Tire Tire.... surprise winner [Re: UG_Passat] #4802669
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No surprise there, I have been saying Michelin is grossly overrated and over priced for years on here, here is the proof of real testing not opinion driven bias reviews. Their summer tires are not bad but shorter lived than the P Zero.


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Re: ADAC 2018 All-Season Tire Tire.... surprise winner [Re: UG_Passat] #4802681
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This was a European test of all weather tires in a 14" tires. I believe the best options for people in places that get snow is to have two sets of tires one for summer and a real dedicated set of winter tires (not all-weathers) for winter. I don't like that manufacturers are blurring the lines of what a real winter tire is.


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Re: ADAC 2018 All-Season Tire Tire.... surprise winner [Re: UG_Passat] #4802739
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4 dedicated snow aka winter tyres beat all season but winter tyres hands down!!! my 2001 jetta left 4wd's behind unless snow was too deep. bought snow tyres mounted + bal free on decent cheap alloy rims from discount tire. easy to change yearly in my garage, safe + economical IMO. snow tyres need to be MANDATORY in the snow belt IMO!!!

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Nexen is moving up in the world. N'Fera RU1 is N-Rated and factory installed on the Macan and Cayenne.


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Re: ADAC 2018 All-Season Tire Tire.... surprise winner [Re: FordFocus] #4802770
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Originally Posted By: FordFocus
This was a European test of all weather tires in a 14" tires. I believe the best options for people in places that get snow is to have two sets of tires one for summer and a real dedicated set of winter tires (not all-weathers) for winter. I don't like that manufacturers are blurring the lines of what a real winter tire is.


These tires are the direct result of jurisdictions requiring winter tires during the season. These all-season tires are technically compliant with teh letter of the law but allow people to use one set of tires year-round. Quebec has done this for a few years, and Germany since the beginning of 2018. There are a few others.

Vredestein was the first company to make all-season tires with the 3-peak sign. The original Quatrac debuted in 1993 smile

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Michelins are the greatest tires in the world....especially on Crown Vics......

Re: ADAC 2018 All-Season Tire Tire.... surprise winner [Re: benjy] #4802828
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My scion gets through the same amount of snow as my impreza did both with all season but would get stuck at times because the awd would dig me in. The scion has thin tires and the cars light it just pulls right through 5-6 inches with ease.


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Re: ADAC 2018 All-Season Tire Tire.... surprise winner [Re: FordFocus] #4802858
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Originally Posted By: FordFocus
This was a European test of all weather tires in a 14" tires. I believe the best options for people in places that get snow is to have two sets of tires one for summer and a real dedicated set of winter tires (not all-weathers) for winter. I don't like that manufacturers are blurring the lines of what a real winter tire is.


That the normal way, summer tires and winter tires on 2 sets of wheels, alloys for the summer and steelies with hub caps for the winter. The all season tire are mostly popular in North America which is no surprise given 400 HP cars and the parking lot speed limits. Speed boat in a bathtub job.


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Re: ADAC 2018 All-Season Tire Tire.... surprise winner [Re: CKN] #4802859
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Originally Posted By: CKN
Michelins are the greatest tires in the world....especially on Crown Vics......


Greatest at what, going bald young?


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Re: ADAC 2018 All-Season Tire Tire.... surprise winner [Re: UG_Passat] #4802861
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Originally Posted By: UG_Passat
With the exception of the Firestone (worst dry and wet performance)...

Shocking! lol

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I would never use Nexen. Bad quality and awful/lack of customer service.

Initial test is fine if you change your tires every 1000 miles. But I need a tire to last and perform over 30k+.


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Re: ADAC 2018 All-Season Tire Tire.... surprise winner [Re: Jimzz] #4803226
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Originally Posted By: Jimzz
I would never use Nexen. Bad quality and awful/lack of customer service.

Initial test is fine if you change your tires every 1000 miles. But I need a tire to last and perform over 30k+.


I had a set of Winguard Sports that lasted me 2 winter seasons plus a summer season. With the mileage I put on my car (around 25,000 miles annually), I didn't have complains about them. The summer season was to completely wear them out before putting on Nokian WR G3's.

I would have considered Nexen's for my all-season choice, but their price compared to the Nokian Z-line A/S (more expensive) made me purchase the Nokians.

The CP672 is pretty highly ranked in Consumer Reports as well.

When it comes time to replace the Nitto SN-2's on my car, the Winguard Sport2 is a potential contender vs Nokian WR G3 SUV (or if the G4 SUV comes out for this season or not).


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Re: ADAC 2018 All-Season Tire Tire.... surprise winner [Re: rooflessVW] #4803784
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Originally Posted By: rooflessVW
Nexen is moving up in the world. N'Fera RU1 is N-Rated and factory installed on the Macan and Cayenne.


What does N-Rated mean in relation to Porsche?


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Re: ADAC 2018 All-Season Tire Tire.... surprise winner [Re: Rand] #4803794
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Originally Posted By: Rand
What does N-Rated mean in relation to Porsche?

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