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Sonata rear brakes #4800981
06/29/18 09:12 PM
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Friend of mine just said he needs rear brakes on a 2011 Sonata. I just YouTube'd how to do the job, got that much. I don't know his budget yet, nor if I need to get rotors just yet, but I'll assume he wants budget. Yet decent quality. OEM or is AutoZone et all "better"? I will probably be able to mail order parts if need be.

Also, the vid said it had phenolic pistons. Can I use the usual disc brake tool, or do I need something special?


2011 Toyota Camry, base, 2.5L/6MT, 170k, hers
2010 Toyota Tundra DC, 4.6L/6AT, 144k, ours
1999 Toyota Camry LE, 2.2L/4AT, 195k, his
Re: Sonata rear brakes [Re: supton] #4800987
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You might as well replace the rotors anyway, since they are very easy to slide off and back on once you take the pads out.

The best rotors to get are EBC Premium, Centric Premium, or Wagner E-shield. Coated rotors really *do* make a difference! Non0coated rotors will rust overnight, but the coated ones really do help keep the rust off. They don;'t last forever, but they do last quite awhile!

Pair them with Akebono ProACT or EBC Ultimax2 pads smile

Re: Sonata rear brakes [Re: supton] #4800996
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Hmmn,rear brakes on a 7 yr old Sonata.If the rotors aren't chewed up, how about doing a relube on the slides and a simple pad swap


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Re: Sonata rear brakes [Re: supton] #4801000
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Phenolic pistons just mean the material it's made out of, so use your usual brake compressor tool that'll fit.

Some phenolic pistons might swell over time and prevent new pads from releasing after braking so go for a short test drive after all's said and done.

Re: Sonata rear brakes [Re: andyd] #4801023
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Originally Posted By: andyd
Hmmn,rear brakes on a 7 yr old Sonata.If the rotors aren't chewed up, how about doing a relube on the slides and a simple pad swap
+1 depends on how rusty they are.

When mine needs brakes, front or rear, it'll just get a pad slap.


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Re: Sonata rear brakes [Re: supton] #4801117
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supton Offline OP
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Thanks on the pistons.

I'll ask and see if they are original. If so then I'll assume they need to be replaced. 7 years is a long time for rotors. Mine are always grooved and kinda ratty after 5. If I can, I'll see if I can do an inspection first, as a pad slap would be easiest & cheapest!


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1999 Toyota Camry LE, 2.2L/4AT, 195k, his
Re: Sonata rear brakes [Re: supton] #4801196
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Replace the rotors too. Avoid the cheap, no name rotor brands. It's a small price to pay.


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Re: Sonata rear brakes [Re: supton] #4801365
06/30/18 11:01 AM
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Let me know if you have any trouble with the e brake cable.

I always have trouble with rear brakes, have never done my sonata before.


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Re: Sonata rear brakes [Re: supton] #4801400
06/30/18 11:28 AM
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After watching the youtube video on this vehicle, what a pain in the rear end.

Need to move the lower control arm and shock out about 1/16th of an inch to get at the lower caliper bracket bolt?

I would not do this job myself on jackstands.

Aligning that control arm is going to be fun, and putting it all back together.

If the rear rotors are serviceable, I would pay a shop to replace the pads, and let them machine the rotors with an on car brake lathe.


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Re: Sonata rear brakes [Re: supton] #4801414
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I didn't get the impression that it would mess with alignment. Looks like poor engineering but nothing that bad really. Two extra bolts and a jack to hold it up, not exactly awful.


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2010 Toyota Tundra DC, 4.6L/6AT, 144k, ours
1999 Toyota Camry LE, 2.2L/4AT, 195k, his
Re: Sonata rear brakes [Re: supton] #4801641
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Originally Posted By: supton
I didn't get the impression that it would mess with alignment. Looks like poor engineering but nothing that bad really. Two extra bolts and a jack to hold it up, not exactly awful.


No not wheel alignment. I was talking about lining up the control arm with the hole to get the bolt into it.


'11 Hyundai Sonata GLS
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Re: Sonata rear brakes [Re: supton] #4802240
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Just did this on my daughter's car. I like the price/performance of the Raybestos coated rotors and their service grade pads for rear and professional pads for the front. The whole rear job with coated rotors and pads from rockauto was about $60 shipped.


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Re: Sonata rear brakes [Re: supton] #4802354
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When I did the rears on my 2008 Hyundai Santa Fe AWD back around 2011, I wound up busting up some of the P-brake hardware in the process because the rotors were SO stuck on. Each little piece of the P-brake hardware was a dealer only part at the time. Other than that, it was you typical rear brake job, where the parking brake is built into the hat of the rotor. I think I used Carquest or Napa pads and rotors at the time. Not awfully expensive IIRC.

If I were you, I would run the car around with the parking brake on to wear some clearance so those rotors come off. I didn't know this trick back then.

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Re: Sonata rear brakes [Re: supton] #4811209
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Raybestos is good? Ok, I'll check with my friend and see if he wants to go that route. Cheap enough.



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2010 Toyota Tundra DC, 4.6L/6AT, 144k, ours
1999 Toyota Camry LE, 2.2L/4AT, 195k, his
Re: Sonata rear brakes [Re: supton] #4811243
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The pads are good but look for different rotors like the ones mentioned above. The Raybestos rotors don't paint the backside of the rotors which may result in early rust there. Below is from a different thread.

Originally Posted By: slacktide_bitog
Originally Posted By: SatinSilver
What about the Raybestos coated rotors? I never see you mention them.


Raybestos doesn't coat the inside of the hat, so they will stick to the hub. Centric and Wagner do coat the inside hat, so they will not freeze to the hub. Also, Raybestos usually costs more than the other brands I mentioned.

Here's an example, for the 8th gen Civic (select any year from 2006-2011 on Rock Auto)

Raybestos


Centric


Wagner

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