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#4800246 - 06/29/18 01:41 AM F1 - 2018 Austrian Grand Prix
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F1 - 2018 Austrian Grand Prix

US TV Times:
Practice 1 - Friday, June 29 5:00 AM - ESPN3
Practice 2 - Friday, June 29 9:00 AM - ESPN3
Practice 3 - Saturday, June 30 6:00 AM - ESPNEWS
Qualifying - Saturday, June 30 9:00 AM - ESPNEWS
Race - Sunday, July 1 9:00 AM - ESPN2


Current Standings:
Drivers
1. Sebastian Vettel, Scuderia Ferrari, 145
2. Lewis Hamilton, Mercedes AMG Petronas, 131
3. Daniel Ricciardo, Aston Martin Red Bull Racing, 96
4. Valtteri Bottas, Mercedes AMG Petronas, 92
5. Kimi Raikkonen, Scuderia Ferrari, 83
6. Max Verstappen, Aston Martin Red Bull Racing, 68
7. Nico Hulkenberg, Renault Sport F1, 34
8. Fernando Alonso, McLaren Renault, 32
9. Carlos Sainz Jr, Renault Sport F1, 28
10. Kevin Magnussen, Haas, 27
Constructors
1. Mercedes AMG Petronas, 237
2. Scuderia Ferrari, 214
3. Aston Martin Red Bull Racing, 164
4. Renault Sport F1, 62
5. McLaren Renault, 40
6. Force India, 28
7. Haas, 27
8. Toro Rosso, 19
9. Alfa Romeo Sauber, 13
10. Williams Martini Racing, 4

For more, including track data, analysis, and video please check out my full post on TOV Motorsports.

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#4800322 - 06/29/18 07:16 AM Re: F1 - 2018 Austrian Grand Prix [Re: gofast182]
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Hoping for a good race this weekend. The back and forth in the standings between Vettle and Hamilton has been nice to see but most of the races themselves have been fairly drama free and anticlimactic. I do like Ferrari coming on strong though and seriously challenging AMG this season.
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#4801382 - 06/30/18 12:09 PM Re: F1 - 2018 Austrian Grand Prix [Re: gofast182]
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I had a dream last night, I dreamed Grojean didn't crash in qually. Silly I know....

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#4801523 - 06/30/18 03:09 PM Re: F1 - 2018 Austrian Grand Prix [Re: gofast182]
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Your dream came true. He put in a blistering lap.
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#4801530 - 06/30/18 03:14 PM Re: F1 - 2018 Austrian Grand Prix [Re: gofast182]
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I know, I was being a wiseacre. I'm thrilled at the result. Haas, nearly outqualifying Red Bull. That's progress right there. Bring 'em on!

On to the race

Larry

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#4801692 - 06/30/18 06:41 PM Re: F1 - 2018 Austrian Grand Prix [Re: gofast182]
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Originally Posted By: gofast182
Your dream came true. He put in a blistering lap.


He did, didn't he. Really nice to see.

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#4802123 - 07/01/18 09:46 AM Re: F1 - 2018 Austrian Grand Prix [Re: gofast182]
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Race of attrition. Didn't see that coming.

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#4802336 - 07/01/18 01:03 PM Re: F1 - 2018 Austrian Grand Prix [Re: gofast182]
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This was actually a very entertaining F1 race. Passing, tires blistering, mechanicals, bad strategy by Big M. Good driving by several drivers with no knucklehead wrecks. Very good. ‘Bout time.
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#4802399 - 07/01/18 02:14 PM Re: F1 - 2018 Austrian Grand Prix [Re: gofast182]
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Perhaps they should let Firestone design F-1 tires. The temp goes up 20 degrees and the chewing gum Pirelli's turn into blister packs.

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#4802560 - 07/01/18 06:23 PM Re: F1 - 2018 Austrian Grand Prix [Re: billt460]
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Originally Posted By: billt460
Perhaps they should let Firestone design F-1 tires. The temp goes up 20 degrees and the chewing gum Pirelli's turn into blister packs.


Didn't Firestone tyres explode any time thy got near a Ford Explorer?

In any case, tyre management went a considerable way to making the race interetsting, and *you* (of all people) are suggesting taking that element away?

I wanted to see Raikkonen take that one. Not as exciting as the MotoGP mind you.

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#4802633 - 07/01/18 07:49 PM Re: F1 - 2018 Austrian Grand Prix [Re: billt460]
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Originally Posted By: billt460
Perhaps they should let Firestone design F-1 tires. The temp goes up 20 degrees and the chewing gum Pirelli's turn into blister packs.


The Firestones were blistering at Texas. Bridgestone doesn't need to spend $100M/year on F1 anyway. It's doing fine.

Michelin will only do it if there's competition, and new tires to push technology forward.

In many ways, a compliant Pirelli is perfect for F1.

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#4802815 - 07/02/18 03:46 AM Re: F1 - 2018 Austrian Grand Prix [Re: Brad_C]
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Originally Posted By: Brad_C
In any case, tyre management went a considerable way to making the race interetsting, and *you* (of all people) are suggesting taking that element away?


It had nothing to do with "management". It was luck.

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#4802824 - 07/02/18 04:59 AM Re: F1 - 2018 Austrian Grand Prix [Re: Brad_C]
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Originally Posted By: Brad_C
Originally Posted By: billt460
Perhaps they should let Firestone design F-1 tires. The temp goes up 20 degrees and the chewing gum Pirelli's turn into blister packs.


Didn't Firestone tyres explode any time thy got near a Ford Explorer?


Haha, you must work for Ford if that’s how you remember it. Please allow me to state the facts for the record.

Ford had a design flaw in their rear suspension. This was exacerbated by their INSISTENCE for the lowest cost OE tire possible. Then Ford, (not Bridgestone/Firestone) insisted on a recommended air pressure of 26 psi to “soften” the ride. So, when knucklehead owners who never checked their tire pressures drove their overloaded vehicles across Texas on 100F+ pavement at 100 mph with <20psi, a small percentage (not all) of the tires failed. Also, keep in mind that Firestone did not supply all of the OE tires for the Explorer. Other brands failed as well, showing that it was Ford, not the Firestone tire design that failed.

And what this has to do with racing in 2018 baffles me. What I do remember is the F1 race I attending at Indianapolis where, during practice, a left front Michelin on Ralf Schumacher’s car popped under full throttle in Turn One of the oval sending him careening into the concrete wall and on to the hospital, resulting in Michelin withdrawing from the race leaving only the six Bridgestone (Firestone) runners to contest the “race”. An unapologetic Bernie took the money and ran resulting in the end of F1 at the Speedway.

There is plenty of evidence out there that Bridgestone/Firestone makes the safest racing and street tires in the industry.


Edited by Indydriver (07/02/18 05:10 AM)
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#4802837 - 07/02/18 05:33 AM Re: F1 - 2018 Austrian Grand Prix [Re: Indydriver]
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Originally Posted By: Indydriver
And what this has to do with racing in 2018 baffles me. What I do remember is the F1 race I attending at Indianapolis where, during practice, a left front Michelin on Ralf Schumacher’s car popped under full throttle in Turn One of the oval sending him careening into the concrete wall and on to the hospital, resulting in Michelin withdrawing from the race leaving only the six Bridgestone (Firestone) runners to contest the “race”. An unapologetic Bernie took the money and ran resulting in the end of F1 at the Speedway.

There is plenty of evidence out there that Bridgestone/Firestone makes the safest racing and street tires in the industry.


I remember that race well. Ralf Schumacher severely injured his back. He was lucky he didn't get killed. He sat exposed in that car for over a minute before anyone got to him. An Indy 500 Safety Crew would have been there in seconds. Bernie was forced to exit the speedway under guard before people mobbed him for that entire fiasco he and Michelin created. The tires Michelin provided for that race were a total joke. The only thing worse was the way they, (and Bernie), handled the entire mess they themselves created.

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#4803138 - 07/02/18 12:42 PM Re: F1 - 2018 Austrian Grand Prix [Re: billt460]
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Loc: Indiana
Originally Posted By: billt460
Originally Posted By: Indydriver
And what this has to do with racing in 2018 baffles me. What I do remember is the F1 race I attending at Indianapolis where, during practice, a left front Michelin on Ralf Schumacher’s car popped under full throttle in Turn One of the oval sending him careening into the concrete wall and on to the hospital, resulting in Michelin withdrawing from the race leaving only the six Bridgestone (Firestone) runners to contest the “race”. An unapologetic Bernie took the money and ran resulting in the end of F1 at the Speedway.

There is plenty of evidence out there that Bridgestone/Firestone makes the safest racing and street tires in the industry.


I remember that race well. Ralf Schumacher severely injured his back. He was lucky he didn't get killed. He sat exposed in that car for over a minute before anyone got to him. An Indy 500 Safety Crew would have been there in seconds. Bernie was forced to exit the speedway under guard before people mobbed him for that entire fiasco he and Michelin created. The tires Michelin provided for that race were a total joke. The only thing worse was the way they, (and Bernie), handled the entire mess they themselves created.


Good details.

The little known secret to Bridgestone’s success at that race (there was no tire test, hence Michelin’s failure) was the fact that they owned Firestone who supplies all the IndyCar tires and has mountains of data on going through Indy’s oval corners and diamond ground pavement at 200 mph+. The diamond grind leaves tiny grooves in the pavement that act like cheese graters on soft tires. You don’t suppose Bridgestone kept that info to themselves, do you?


Edited by Indydriver (07/02/18 12:44 PM)
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