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Anti-Wear ingredients in Motor Oils. #4799883
06/28/18 04:45 PM
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Does anyone have or know of a list of various oils and the amount of zinc (ZDDP) and other anti-wear ingredients? They seem to change formulas like old socks. Also, what does the standard, i.e. CK-4, mean to the average Joe? are certain ingredients in certain volume required? It seems like buying oil is like buying a mattress!

Re: Anti-Wear ingredients in Motor Oils. [Re: HeyR] #4799888
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Re: Anti-Wear ingredients in Motor Oils. [Re: HeyR] #4799893
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Wow, a newb. You're right about buying motor oils being like buying a mattress. There are so many variations out there, you can find an oil to help out on any engine issue you're concerned about. There are a lot of Product Data Sheets (or Technical Data Sheets) on oil maker websites, so when you go to a page with the marketing blurb about an oil, click on the PDS link. Mobil has a good data sheet on their website summarizing the zddp content of their synthetic oils. Some makers data sheets are better than others, Castrol's being famously bad (at least on BITOG) for only showing that their oils meet the minimum specs.

Spend some hours reading on BITOG. Read Motor Oil 101 on the homepage. Look at the Virgin Oil Analysis page.


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Re: Anti-Wear ingredients in Motor Oils. [Re: HeyR] #4799938
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You cannot see all the components in an engine oil by looking at a VOA or UOA.
The best engine oils will contain a high performance antiwear polymer not seen in a VOA or UOA.
That additive is usually used only when necessary as it is expensive. Modern ashless two-stroke oil
contain it. Low and mid saps Euro oils contain it, too as does Quaker State Ultimate Durability
Full Synthetic in some grades.


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Re: Anti-Wear ingredients in Motor Oils. [Re: HeyR] #4799947
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Welcome and here is some info that nay help:

Engine Oil Additives

See Post #530330


Last edited by MolaKule; 06/28/18 06:13 PM.

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Re: Anti-Wear ingredients in Motor Oils. [Re: HeyR] #4799951
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I'd like MolaKule to do some insight on the additive I brought up.


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Re: Anti-Wear ingredients in Motor Oils. [Re: skyactiv] #4800068
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Originally Posted By: skyactiv

I'd like MolaKule to do some insight on the additive I brought up.





What is the name of this component?


Cannot see signatures any longer so it doesn’t matter.
Re: Anti-Wear ingredients in Motor Oils. [Re: skyactiv] #4800125
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Originally Posted By: skyactiv

I'd like MolaKule to do some insight on the additive I brought up.


I assume you are referring to the polymer ester?

If so, you will find a discussion here:

HyperLube Zinc replacement and polymer ester.


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Re: Anti-Wear ingredients in Motor Oils. [Re: MolaKule] #4800132
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There's a longer one we had recently... As well.

I'm very, very glad to see you on here MolaKule. You are a landmark member on here who really helps a lot of people, educates a lot of people and helps make this a very informative and great place.


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Re: Anti-Wear ingredients in Motor Oils. [Re: MolaKule] #4800139
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Likewise Molakule, it’s good to see you back.


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Re: Anti-Wear ingredients in Motor Oils. [Re: bbhero] #4800210
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Yea! MolaKule is back! plus what he said
Originally Posted By: bbhero
...(snip)...

I'm very, very glad to see you on here MolaKule. You are a landmark member on here who really helps a lot of people, educates a lot of people and helps make this a very informative and great place.


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Re: Anti-Wear ingredients in Motor Oils. [Re: PimTac] #4800216
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Originally Posted By: PimTac
Likewise Molakule, it’s good to see you back.
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Re: Anti-Wear ingredients in Motor Oils. [Re: HeyR] #4800259
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Yes, Snoopy was doing his happy dance in my mind when I saw he had returned.


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Re: Anti-Wear ingredients in Motor Oils. [Re: MrQuackers] #4800323
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Originally Posted By: MrQuackers
Yes, Snoopy was doing his happy dance in my mind when I saw he had returned.



happy banana


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Re: Anti-Wear ingredients in Motor Oils. [Re: Patman] #4800497
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Originally Posted By: Patman
Originally Posted By: MrQuackers
Yes, Snoopy was doing his happy dance in my mind when I saw he had returned.



happy banana


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