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Tire Rack's tire rotation recommendation #4798572
06/27/18 07:13 AM
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Tire Rack recommends the FIRST rotation with new tires at around 3,000 miles. They claim the most wear happens initially, than go to 5,000-6,000 mile rotation thereafter. Any thoughts on their recommendation?


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Re: Tire Rack's tire rotation recommendation [Re: flinter] #4798582
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Re: Tire Rack's tire rotation recommendation [Re: flinter] #4798594
06/27/18 07:31 AM
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Unless I see a tire wearing , I never rotate them . If it is wearing , time to inspect the suspension and repair as needed . Then get an alignment .

Then replace any tires that need it .


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Re: Tire Rack's tire rotation recommendation [Re: flinter] #4798605
06/27/18 07:41 AM
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BMW stated several years ago that to achieve maximum adhesion and safety to rotated every 3,000 miles. Latest recommendation was to NOT rotate because cost would be prohibitive if the 3K were used. I rotate when the tread difference is about 2/32, front to rear. This usually occurs at 7-9,000 miles for my type of driving. Ed


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Re: Tire Rack's tire rotation recommendation [Re: flinter] #4798637
06/27/18 08:16 AM
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Just bought tires a few weeks ago from DT and have never heard that recommendation. Maybe a regional thing?


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Re: Tire Rack's tire rotation recommendation [Re: flinter] #4798665
06/27/18 08:50 AM
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Depends on where and how you drive. 3000 miles in the city and suburbs is very different than 3000 miles highway.

Wait, that's not answering the question...IMO it doesn't matter and problem is that it is a very long test cycle to prove or disprove.

Still, at my next new set of tires I may try it.


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Re: Tire Rack's tire rotation recommendation [Re: flinter] #4798679
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I rotate once per season, swapping front to rear (no cross) when I install the winter wheels; same with when it's time to remove the winter wheels and install the all-seasons.


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Re: Tire Rack's tire rotation recommendation [Re: flinter] #4798752
06/27/18 10:23 AM
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Purchased tires at Sam's Club, free rotation for life of tires. Drop off at 0700 when they open, do my shopping and by the time I'm done they are done and I go home. I go in every 6k to 7k miles.

So far I have 55k on my MX2's on my 2002 Silverado tires and they are just getting down to the wear bars.


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Re: Tire Rack's tire rotation recommendation [Re: Rat407] #4798783
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When you steer the edge's of the fronts wear. If you don't rotate your tires your fronts will be a glaring notice of neglect to any potential purchaser.

Re: Tire Rack's tire rotation recommendation [Re: Kira] #4798804
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Originally Posted By: Kira
- edge's -


Sorry, but why the apostrophe?


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Re: Tire Rack's tire rotation recommendation [Re: flinter] #4798817
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I'm sure their must be some kind of data behind what TR is saying, but it honestly doesn't make a lot of sense to me. Is the outermost layer of tire typically softer for some reason??

I've realized that I replace my tires due to shoulder wear more than anything else. Put my summer tires a few months ago and they looked sort of tired (hee hee), but the center tread depth was still OK...had a long interstate drive in the rain about a month ago and found that I felt very stable going straight but even a very shallow curve at speed made me feel like I was losing traction. Looked at the tires again and, yep, the shoulder blocks were pretty much gone.

Had two very long drives coming up so I had my favorite indy tire shop slap some RT43s on there while they also figured a wheel bearing problem that was causing an annoying whine, and I feel very safe in the rain now. I have to say these new tires don't feel quite as sporty as the GY Eagle Sports they replaced, but they are a little better in general wet conditions (if I can trust my memory from when the GYs were new).

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Re: Tire Rack's tire rotation recommendation [Re: flinter] #4798859
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I always heard that if a tire wears at the edges , it id probably under inflated .

I have always aired my tires to the max rating listed on the sidewall . More air gives a little rougher ride , but the tire lasts longer & gets slightly better MPG .


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Re: Tire Rack's tire rotation recommendation [Re: flinter] #4798933
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Originally Posted By: flinter
Tire Rack recommends the FIRST rotation with new tires at around 3,000 miles. They claim the most wear happens initially, than go to 5,000-6,000 mile rotation thereafter. Any thoughts on their recommendation?


thumbsup I rotate as recommended in the manual (F to R, cross to F) at each oil change.
I do it myself so there is NC - I believe you cannot rotate too often, but you can rotate not often enough.


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Re: Tire Rack's tire rotation recommendation [Re: flinter] #4798952
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Nokian requires the first rotation at 5,000 miles then at least every 7,500 miles thereafter.

Read "Owners Obligations"

https://www.nokiantires.com/innovation/safety/tire-safety/nokian-warranty/


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Re: Tire Rack's tire rotation recommendation [Re: WyrTwister] #4798962
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Originally Posted By: WyrTwister
I always heard that if a tire wears at the edges , it id probably under inflated .

I have always aired my tires to the max rating listed on the sidewall . More air gives a little rougher ride , but the tire lasts longer & gets slightly better MPG .


The only issue with keeping tires at Max inflation is that it will effect the handling of the vehicle. That is why one is suppose to follow the inflation guide that is usually inside the drivers door. That is what the manufacture had tested the performance and handling of the vehicle at that inflation pressure. At least that is my understanding.


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