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09 Ford focus randomly dies when turning hard #4797986
06/26/18 11:56 AM
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So today my moms car when making a left turn to turn from one street onto another it just shut off. No stumble just off. So we had a few minutes before my doctors appointment so we drove around and when turning left into the parking lot at the doctors it died again. Then in the way home the idle when sitting would surge a little. Finally it through a pending code p0300. So I looked over everything obvious. There's no vacuum leaks spark plugs are 6 months old she always get gas at the same bp station. The throttle body had very little carbon as well. I know some of the older focuses had fuel pump issues not sure if this year still does. I can't easily check fuel pressure as there is no shrader valve so I haven't gotten a chance to do that yet. But when it's fine it's fine . She drove it about 10 miles home and said it never acted up. Any thoughts? Or anything in general I should check?


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Re: 09 Ford focus randomly dies when turning hard [Re: ram_man] #4797990
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Re: 09 Ford focus randomly dies when turning hard [Re: ram_man] #4797994
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loose battery cable? Check the cheap, easy stuff first.


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Re: 09 Ford focus randomly dies when turning hard [Re: andyd] #4797999
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Originally Posted By: andyd
loose battery cable? Check the cheap, easy stuff first.
yea battery cables were good and tight to.


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Re: 09 Ford focus randomly dies when turning hard [Re: ram_man] #4798012
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What Have you observed when turning hard? Is it electric assist PS?

What could get moved/touched/shorted?

Re: 09 Ford focus randomly dies when turning hard [Re: ram_man] #4798022
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I don't think it's electric assist. It's when turning left while driving. If it's parked it doesn't affect it to turn. As far as what could get touched or shorted I didn't observe anything out of place or that could be a problem. It did surge and run rough while sitting at my house but when she drove home she said it did fine.

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Re: 09 Ford focus randomly dies when turning hard [Re: ram_man] #4798061
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Try cleaning the throttle body. I dont know if its related, but the Mazda 3s with the smaller engine around this time had issue with random shut downs.


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Re: 09 Ford focus randomly dies when turning hard [Re: ram_man] #4798071
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I wiped it out but really short of taking it off it was pretty clean.


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Re: 09 Ford focus randomly dies when turning hard [Re: ram_man] #4798072
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I wiped it out but really short of taking it off it was pretty clean.


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Re: 09 Ford focus randomly dies when turning hard [Re: ram_man] #4798103
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Heavy key chain? Have seen this MANY times. Weight of the keychain is enough to shut off the car.


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Re: 09 Ford focus randomly dies when turning hard [Re: ram_man] #4798108
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Isn't there some sort of sensor that increases idle when steering, so that it doesn't stall? Can't think of the name.


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Re: 09 Ford focus randomly dies when turning hard [Re: ram_man] #4798122
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Po300 is misfires. Start looking for a wire touching or vacuum hose leak opening when the engine is moved by turning.


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Re: 09 Ford focus randomly dies when turning hard [Re: Nick1994] #4798125
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Originally Posted By: Nick1994
Isn't there some sort of sensor that increases idle when steering, so that it doesn't stall? Can't think of the name.


There is on some cars Im not sure about this one. But it was surging in park in the driveway and running rough . When the pending code came up on the scanner the live data showed short term fuel trim at +25


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Re: 09 Ford focus randomly dies when turning hard [Re: ram_man] #4798154
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Re: 09 Ford focus randomly dies when turning hard [Re: ram_man] #4798156
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Look around closer for vacuum leak, loose connections, etc. Check every hose, don't assume if its connected its okay.


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