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Review: CVJ Remanufactured CV Axles #4796827
06/25/18 03:40 AM
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I was working on a 2011 Nissan Rogue FWD where I found a torn-open inner CV boot on the passenger front axle. While my normal process is to reboot the axle using a dealer boot kit, this car displayed vibration during hard acceleration at highway speeds so I was concerned about worn axles. New axles from the dealer were not in the owner’s budget (list price for the pair was $1241) and used low-mileage OEM axles were unavailable from the junkyard. At first, I tried three different brands of new aftermarket axles (GSP, Cardone Select/NAPA, SurTrak/TrakMotive), but all three brands were either too long or caused severe shudder when accelerating from a stop.

I first learned about CVJ Axles from iATN. CVJ promises to only use OEM cores for rebuilding and it is speculated that they use a mix of aftermarket parts and good, used OE parts to build their axles. Steel balls in the outer joints are always replaced. My axles appear to have received new vibration dampers as well. I am not sure if they do any grinding; their website is silent on this topic. Like many aftermarket axles builders, they do use Neoprene boots and 3% Moly Grease, but they also offer upgraded boots and grease for certain applications (but not mine). Regardless, given their positive feedback and the budget constraints I was working with, I decided to give them a try for this Rogue. The price was $99/axle, $38/pair to ship to me and $32 for a prepaid label to return the cores. The total was $268.00.

Upon ordering, CVJ built the driver side axle for me. The passenger side was already in-stock and ready to go. It took 4 business days from the time of ordering to the time of arrival. The axles came painted (including the threads) with a black paint similar to what Cardone uses, but is not very solvent-resistant. In my opinion, the packaging for shipping could use some improvements though; the axles were shipped in a thin box and the passenger axle's dust shield was slightly bent upon arrival (but I was able to straighten it out):





Close-up of the axles:

a) Passenger Side Axle:



b) Driver Side Axle:



Axles installed (notice the severe angle in which these axles are positioned):

a) Passenger side installed:

b) Driver side installed:


Conclusion: These axles worked! Unlike the new aftermarket axles, the CVJ rebuilt axles do not cause any shudder when accelerating from a stop. The high-speed shudder has been reduced to a more-acceptable level, but I suspect that some of the shudder is an inherent issue with the CVT and specifically, the Rogue platform. Fitment (length) was also perfect. However, my first choice is still to reboot known-good OE axles or buy used low-mileage axles from a junkyard. The main reason is because these rebuilt axles contain a mix of new aftermarket parts and known-good used parts, so the lifespan is an unknown. Plus, CVJ does use aftermarket 3% moly grease (which is not the OE specified grease) and Neoprene boots (which are inferior to Thermoplastic used by many OEM's on the outer joint) and those two characteristics may result in a reduced service life. Regardless, I do believe that the CVJ axles are a far superior choice to the new aftermarket axles on the market today.


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2007 Honda Accord 2.4 - 131K - Mobil 1 EP HM 5W-30
Re: Review: CVJ Remanufactured CV Axles [Re: The Critic] #4796836
06/25/18 04:38 AM
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Just curious, who pays for your labor when you install and uninstall (3) faulty parts? *Also, did you have any issues returning "used" parts?

I understand the customer wants it cheap, but then you're left fiddling with the darn thing.

Last edited by dlundblad; 06/25/18 04:40 AM.

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Re: Review: CVJ Remanufactured CV Axles [Re: The Critic] #4796839
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Looks like a quality aftermarket replacement option. Surprised to see a torn boot and worn halfshaft on a 2011.


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Re: Review: CVJ Remanufactured CV Axles [Re: dishdude] #4796865
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Originally Posted By: dishdude
Looks like a quality aftermarket replacement option. Surprised to see a torn boot and worn halfshaft on a 2011.


That's what I was thinking, also, the tie rod dust boot is just about completely split as well! How many miles on this Rogue?


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Re: Review: CVJ Remanufactured CV Axles [Re: The Critic] #4796871
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Re: Review: CVJ Remanufactured CV Axles [Re: The Critic] #4796908
06/25/18 07:27 AM
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Are all the California cars that clean underneath?


If you want the job done right......do it yourself.
Re: Review: CVJ Remanufactured CV Axles [Re: The Critic] #4796939
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Thanks for that critic. I will call them if I need something and give them a try. I noticed that they use 3% moly and off a higher moly content grease as an option. I use Redline CV-2 which is 5% on every joint. (I don't work on Toyota or other Japanese much anymore, I know Toyota has different specs) so the 5% seems to hold up the best.

Quote:
We offer two upgrades for grease. Both are fully synthetic greases with high moly and other friction modifiers and ideally suited for performance CVs. We have race tested them and they are superior.


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Re: Review: CVJ Remanufactured CV Axles [Re: The Critic] #4796985
06/25/18 09:04 AM
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Thanks for sharing.

As a DIYer, I often get frustrated about my slowness and mistakes-along-the-way. It comforts me (odd, I know) to see that those working in shops also sometimes have steep learning curves and that your accumulated wealth of knowledge takes many years and many repairs to acquire.

Re: Review: CVJ Remanufactured CV Axles [Re: Tman220] #4797048
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Originally Posted By: Tman220
Originally Posted By: dishdude
Looks like a quality aftermarket replacement option. Surprised to see a torn boot and worn halfshaft on a 2011.


That's what I was thinking, also, the tie rod dust boot is just about completely split as well! How many miles on this Rogue?


107K Miles.

Several thousand miles ago, the inner cv boot was starting to show signs of splitting, and it became catastrophic quite quickly:




Originally Posted By: Snagglefoot
Are all the California cars that clean underneath?


Usually, yes.


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Re: Review: CVJ Remanufactured CV Axles [Re: The Critic] #4797081
06/25/18 11:21 AM
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Critic thanks so much for the great pictures and valuable information. I just wanted to give some input also. New axles from Advanced Auto worked great on my 1999 Sentra. This was approximately 8 years ago. I think they cost about $75 each back then.

Re: Review: CVJ Remanufactured CV Axles [Re: The Critic] #4797119
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Thank you the review and pictures thumbsup

CVJ looks like a quality option. Just too bad they use stupid neoprene instead of thermoplastic mad

Torn boots are practically the only reason for CV joint failure!

Re: Review: CVJ Remanufactured CV Axles [Re: The Critic] #4797254
06/25/18 02:51 PM
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Steve at CVJ is the owner and has been a pleasure to deal with. They have rebuilt 3 axle shafts for me. I currently have one on my Montero and 2 as spares.

They will accept your grease and I sent them Redline CV2 grease thanks to Trav, recommendation. Their grease is around 75.00 or racing $200.00 each axle. Don't quote me on the price, it's an approximation. Unfortunately, they are unable to purchase OEM Mitsubishi bearings, nor any Japanese bearing for my application. Most parts are obsolete and my truck is 24 years old.

I paid extra for the silicone boots. They were around $48.00 each. I have no affiliation to the business with the exception of being a customer.

I sent my axles in the original OEM axle shaft box from Mitsu. I double boxed the axles and they kept my OEM box:(. I had purchased the last OEM axle shaft in North America six years ago.

I agree about the return packaging, it could have been better, but they were not damaged and looked very good! I highly recommend CVJ!






Respectfully,

Pajero!


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Re: Review: CVJ Remanufactured CV Axles [Re: The Critic] #4797319
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Critic, I noticed in the photos that they have also painted the surface area where the transaxle oil seal rides on. I wonder if that will have any effect on seal efficiency and durability in the long run? The seal lip is designed to ride on a smooth machined surface.

Re: Review: CVJ Remanufactured CV Axles [Re: chrome] #4798200
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Originally Posted By: chrome
Critic, I noticed in the photos that they have also painted the surface area where the transaxle oil seal rides on. I wonder if that will have any effect on seal efficiency and durability in the long run? The seal lip is designed to ride on a smooth machined surface.


Good catch. No issues so far. However, the paint made it more difficult for the axle to bottom out in the steering knuckle. I had to tighten the axle nut in order to fully seat the axle.


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Re: Review: CVJ Remanufactured CV Axles [Re: The Critic] #4798241
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Thanks for sharing it's appreciated.


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