2011 F-150 Ecoboost timing chain replacement

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70k miles, throwing a P0016 cam\crank correlation code. I got the cab and the valve covers pulled today, Monday is cover removal! What a pain... I'll never buy one of these. Coyote all the way!
 
Originally Posted By: Vern_in_IL
70k on a friggin timing chain???????? Chains should be until EOL!!!
+1 that sounds ridiculous. What is it, a 6.0L Powerstroke?
 
Originally Posted By: 14Accent
Coyote all the way!


I thought the 5.0L Coyotes sometimes need oil pumps...
 
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Originally Posted By: Cujet
I keep saying it, but Uber thin oils and extended OCI’s lead directly to this


Think that’s a 5w-30 engine. Plus we don’t how the thing was maintained.
 
Originally Posted By: Cujet
I keep saying it, but Uber thin oils and extended OCI’s lead directly to this


Perhaps, but failures seem to cluster around the same vehicles.

Sufficed to say, thin oils and extended OCI are don't do 'some vehicles' any good.
 
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Originally Posted By: Nick1994
Originally Posted By: Vern_in_IL
70k on a friggin timing chain???????? Chains should be until EOL!!!
+1 that sounds ridiculous. What is it, a 6.0L Powerstroke?


It's a 3.5 V6 Ecoboost.

Originally Posted By: gregk24
Is it really necessary to remove the cab from the frame to access timing chain?


Necessary? No. I consulted with my good buddy who's a tech at Ford. He does them with the body on, but other tech's take it off. Rust and tech preference seem to be the only deciding factor.

I've done several 5.4 engine replacements on these trucks, so taking the cab off is no big deal for me. Ford puts them together on the line this way after all!

It's basically this:

Remove front bumper
Remove intake piping and recover A/C
Drain radiator and remove hoses
Remove master cylinder, leave lines attached, unplug ABS module electronics
Disconnect transmission cable and e-brake cable
Handful of electrical connectors

That's it, off it comes.
 
Should be under warranty.
Emissions is 8yrs, 80k.


Yes, Ford is replacing them under emissions warranty.
 
Originally Posted By: Cujet
I keep saying it, but Uber thin oils and extended OCI’s lead directly to this


What reason(s) does Ford advise is the cause? Is this an engine where Ford recommends 5w20? Is this a common issue? I know from past posts, you're not a scare monger so any info you have, please share.
 
Bummer! but it happens. I mean, anything can fail, high or low miles.

Would doing a timing chain on a 5.0 be any easier?

Are you doing this in your own shop?
 
Originally Posted By: Nick1994
Originally Posted By: Vern_in_IL
70k on a friggin timing chain???????? Chains should be until EOL!!!
+1 that sounds ridiculous. What is it, a 6.0L Powerstroke?


The 7.3, 6.0, 6.4, and 6.7 Powerstrokes are all gear drive. The 6.0 and 6.4 have the gears on the rear of the engine.

A lot of the Coyote oil pump gear failures come from bouncing off the limiter on a 2 step.
 
Originally Posted By: supton
Bummer! but it happens. I mean, anything can fail, high or low miles.

Would doing a timing chain on a 5.0 be any easier?

Are you doing this in your own shop?


Sure am. Well not my shop, the shop I work for. The guy that did the diagnosis passed on the job so I grabbed it. Between that and the engine replacement I have sitting in my lot, 2010 Sebring with a 3.5. Can't WAIT to get that going.
 
The least fun part of the job, according to the techs at my work, is making sure cover is fully tightened within 15 minutes of applying the TA-357 RTV.
 
117k miles on mine, no problems yet, but I’ve been running 0w40 Edge since around 30-40k miles. OCIs are anywhere between 4K-7k. Quiet as a mouse. Ecoboost engines like a good stout oil. KJSmith has gone the full IOM on his trucks up to 100k miles on Magnatec ; I don’t recall him mentioning chain problems. Agree that it could be a combination of mediocre oils and long OCIs.
 
Originally Posted By: bdcardinal
The least fun part of the job, according to the techs at my work, is making sure cover is fully tightened within 15 minutes of applying the TA-357 RTV.


Fast-cure RTV??!?
 
Originally Posted By: Linctex
Originally Posted By: bdcardinal
The least fun part of the job, according to the techs at my work, is making sure cover is fully tightened within 15 minutes of applying the TA-357 RTV.


Fast-cure RTV??!?


https://www.fcsdchemicalsandlubricants.c...and%20Adhesives

The manual says whenever it is called for to have all the hardware torqued within 15 minutes or else you are to take it all back apart and re-apply.
 
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