Originally Posted By: PimTac
Considering this article discusses GF3 oils, the discussion is outdated.
GF3 might be outdated, but the discussion is not.
I'm talking about the ideas contained in this article, not the specific qualifications or designations.
Got anything positive to contribute?
Originally Posted By: ZeeOSix
Originally Posted By: Snagglefoot
I’m thinking after 15 years, there is no significant numbers of failures of Ford engines due to using 0w20 oil. If anyone has data counter to that, let’s see it.
Do a Google search for Coyote BBQ Tick. Some claim using 5W30 or thicker makes it go away. And many Ford owners have had engines replaced or the vehicle bought back from Ford because of the issue. Totally oil related? Maybe not, but Ford doesn't use 5W20 in countries outside the US and seems those owners don't seem to get the ticking issue.
I've heard about the F150 engine in question, slight tick at 60k or so, and with thicker oils in the sump it was indeed quieter. Several threads on here with F150 questions/discussion.
It seems the thick vs thin debate will continue until we're all in electric vehicles. I recall Shannow posted a chart, created by Honda, showing a graph of average engine stress in different countries. The US was quite a bit lower stress on the chart, so I'd agree that perhaps a 0w20 is adequate for mom's grocery getter that's short tripped around town. But the story is different for an F150 (or 250) that's worked hard.
I just thought that the article was interesting, and could provoke some thoughtful commentary. Maybe when parts of the US other than the Pacific NW wake up and post, we'll see that.