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Diesel lube in Petrol Engine #4792441
06/20/18 06:46 PM
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Taiwan
Ducked Offline OP
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Oil prospecting.

Was down by the swollen river to get some "ground truth" shots for a remote sensing module I'm trying to put together and I found this, perhaps deposited by the receeding flood. Was on its side oozing a slick into the river. Seems to still be about 2/3 full.




I'll haved to decant it to make sure it hasn't got any river water in it (rain water would probably be OK).

Assuming it hasnt, what are the potential issues with using an oil that doesn't appear to carry an S rating?

Amsoil say no, but they don't say why.

If its OK, if I stay in Taiwan, with the stuff I already have, thats a lifetimes supply of oil.

Which is a bit depressing.

Re: Diesel lube in Petrol Engine [Re: Ducked] #4792448
06/20/18 06:53 PM
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That looks like it's been refilled with used oil.

Oil change on a big truck is typically two of those cans.

Re: Diesel lube in Petrol Engine [Re: Ducked] #4792457
06/20/18 06:58 PM
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I don't think I would use it, used or otherwise.


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Re: Diesel lube in Petrol Engine [Re: Ducked] #4792462
06/20/18 06:59 PM
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I would definitely get it tested before I risked blowing an engine with it!


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Re: Diesel lube in Petrol Engine [Re: Ducked] #4792464
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Originally Posted By: Ducked
Was on its side oozing a slick into the river.

I've been recycling mine like a fool! What was I thinking?!


03 Jetta AWP/09A 205k kms
Edge 0W40 + Mann 719/30
Re: Diesel lube in Petrol Engine [Re: mk378] #4792470
06/20/18 07:03 PM
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Originally Posted By: mk378
That looks like it's been refilled with used oil.

Oil change on a big truck is typically two of those cans.


Could be, given the dirt, though from tilting the can, the content looks cleanish. I'll have a better idea when I decant it. Best guess is it was for irrigation pump lubrication, though there are some bank reinforcement works currently upstream.

If its dirty I'll take it for recycling and feel I've saved the environment a drop in the ocean of insult.

Re: Diesel lube in Petrol Engine [Re: Ducked] #4792478
06/20/18 07:09 PM
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Originally Posted By: Ducked
If its dirty I'll take it for recycling and feel I've saved the environment a drop in the ocean of insult.

One washed up oil jug at a time! Ata boy!


03 Jetta AWP/09A 205k kms
Edge 0W40 + Mann 719/30
Re: Diesel lube in Petrol Engine [Re: bullwinkle] #4792486
06/20/18 07:13 PM
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Originally Posted By: bullwinkle
I would definitely get it tested before I risked blowing an engine with it!


Not sure what testing I could do. If the same stuff is available in small quantities I could get some comparative index of viscosity with a bought bottle.

Going beyond that, say to TBN, is likely to be too much trouble.

UOA as a consumer-level service is unlikely to be available here. Maybe commercially but its unlikely to be worth the expense.

Re: Diesel lube in Petrol Engine [Re: Ducked] #4792489
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Anyway, how about the question?

Non S-rated oil in a petrol engine?

Issues?

Re: Diesel lube in Petrol Engine [Re: Ducked] #4792511
06/20/18 07:34 PM
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HDEO in a gas engine - no problem. Have 15W-40 in my 911 right now.

That oil in anything - don't think so. It came out of the river. Throw it back.


"Zed's dead baby, Zed's dead."
Re: Diesel lube in Petrol Engine [Re: rooflessVW] #4792542
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Originally Posted By: rooflessVW
That oil in anything - don't think so. It came out of the river. Throw it back.


LOL sailing


03 Jetta AWP/09A 205k kms
Edge 0W40 + Mann 719/30
Re: Diesel lube in Petrol Engine [Re: maxdustington] #4792554
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Originally Posted By: maxdustington
Originally Posted By: rooflessVW
That oil in anything - don't think so. It came out of the river. Throw it back.


LOL sailing

Catch and release! Haha laugh


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Re: Diesel lube in Petrol Engine [Re: rooflessVW] #4792559
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Originally Posted By: rooflessVW
HDEO in a gas engine - no problem. Have 15W-40 in my 911 right now.



Does the stuff in your 911 carry an S-rating?

Re: Diesel lube in Petrol Engine [Re: Ducked] #4792706
06/20/18 11:55 PM
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Originally Posted By: Ducked
Originally Posted By: mk378
That looks like it's been refilled with used oil.

Oil change on a big truck is typically two of those cans.


Could be, given the dirt, though from tilting the can, the content looks cleanish.


Be careful about that--if that barrel does contain used oil and sat for a couple months before you found it, the soot and other particulates will have settled out to a large degree. So you may very well have seen "cleanish" oil, even if it was used. If that's indeed the case, then the stuff towards the bottom will be black sludge.

If you really wanted to use it, get it analyzed--only then will you know the real story. Everything posted here is speculation and should be treated as such.

Re: Diesel lube in Petrol Engine [Re: Ducked] #4792708
06/21/18 12:00 AM
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HDEO are excellent for older petrol engines that require 40 grades and don't have too much emissions equipment, cats or egrs and such.
As long as it carries the proper Sx API rating, i am using myself a SL / CI-4 rated 15W-40 HDEO for the first time in my 1988 Ford Escort and i like it, very low oil consumption ( less than when using a 20W-50 PCMO ) and it seems to be cleaning up deposits.


1975 Ford Capri II Ghia 3000 V6, - Shell Helix HX3 20W-50 w/ 20% Rimula R4X 15W-40 HDEO.

1988 Ford Escort Mk4 Xr3i Cabrio, - Shell Rimula R4X 15W-40, w/ 30% Helix 3 20W-50.

Finnish expat in Spain.
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