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fumoto oil valve #4791447
06/19/18 07:19 PM
06/19/18 07:19 PM
Joined: Jun 2018
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Maine
Santo Offline OP
Santo  Offline OP
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Maine
have been using Fumoto oil valves for years on many different vehicles. Just installed one on new Lexus. Word of warning :use a better lock than the plastic. Get a small radiator hose clamp. While traveling to Fort Kent Maine on a Rte.11 they were tearing up the road and obviously a stone came up from the dirt road and the one in a million thing happened. The stone broke the plastic clamp and lifted the lever. All oiled drained from pan. message came up on dash warning of low oil level and I was able to stop and fix problem. I will put a better clamp on all other vehicles. I realize that this probably will never happen again but like they say : never say never

Re: fumoto oil valve [Re: Santo] #4791457
06/19/18 07:27 PM
06/19/18 07:27 PM
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MA, Mittelfranken.de
Trav Offline
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MA, Mittelfranken.de
Once is once too many times for a failure like this. Happy to hear you didn't loose the engine.


ASE L1, Master. Deutsch Meisterbrief.
Re: fumoto oil valve [Re: Santo] #4791480
06/19/18 07:43 PM
06/19/18 07:43 PM
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VA
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VA
Phew, good for you smile


2006 Civic EX 202K/AT
2006 Acura TSX 180K/AT
Re: fumoto oil valve [Re: Santo] #4791492
06/19/18 07:52 PM
06/19/18 07:52 PM
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Posts: 30
Texas
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Texas
Been using those valves for 20 years and never had an issue. Know fleet manager that has run them over a million miles without an incident. Where is the drain plug on your Lexus?


F-250 PS
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Re: fumoto oil valve [Re: Santo] #4791500
06/19/18 07:58 PM
06/19/18 07:58 PM
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Idaho
CT8 Offline
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Idaho
It is not that hard to turn a wrench.


2015 Ford F150 2.7
2018 Ford F350 6.2
Re: fumoto oil valve [Re: Santo] #4791518
06/19/18 08:10 PM
06/19/18 08:10 PM
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VA
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VA
1 and done. I sold all 6 of mine. When you don't got a good feeling going in....


'98 LEX LS400 280K
'00 LEX GS300 195K
'02 4Runner 225K
'05 Lex LS430 85K
'06 Toyota Highlander 145K
'09 Lex IS350 85K
'07 Lex GX470 60K
Amsoil in all engines, transmissions and differentials

Re: fumoto oil valve [Re: CT8] #4791520
06/19/18 08:14 PM
06/19/18 08:14 PM
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Texas
Cedarshark Offline
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Texas
Originally Posted By: CT8
It is not that hard to turn a wrench.


It's not just about turning a wrench(for me).....it's about getting 14 qts of hot diesel oil into a container for disposal without getting it on me or the driveway.


F-250 PS
HOnda CRV
FOrd 1710 Diesel Tractor
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Kawasaki mule
Re: fumoto oil valve [Re: CT8] #4791565
06/19/18 09:24 PM
06/19/18 09:24 PM
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Posts: 308
North Carolina
OilFilters Offline
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North Carolina
Originally Posted By: CT8
It is not that hard to turn a wrench.


It's not that hard to roll down a window either...people still spend a lot of money on power windows. The Fumoto valve just makes life easier, the chances of it breaking or opening when it shouldn't are much smaller than many other bad things that could happen to your engine at any given time.

They also work great on vehicles or equipment that are hard to change. There are plenty of engines out there where you really need to add a nipple and a hose to drain without making a mess. Can't do that with just a wrench.

So many people are terrified of the valves...while they let worn out threads on a bolt hold their oil in with a thin fragile gasket.

Re: fumoto oil valve [Re: Santo] #4791577
06/19/18 09:51 PM
06/19/18 09:51 PM
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Posts: 2,475
St. Louis
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St. Louis
Glad you caught it. I never had a problem unless I forgot to close the valve when changing oil. I did have a drain plug leak when seal went bad. Nothing is perfect and sometimes stuff happens.

I am using EZ Oil Change valve in the Elantra. It is protected by the plastic cover with cut out for access when draining oil so it would be hard to open unless cover is damaged.


Truth alone triumphs, not untruth.

2017 Elantra SE
Re: fumoto oil valve [Re: Santo] #4791579
06/19/18 09:59 PM
06/19/18 09:59 PM
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Canada
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Canada
I noticed mine opens up just from plain old driving. I use a few zip ties to hold it shut.


2013 Ram 1500 with a 4.7.

I use 0W-20 year round. I alternate between RP and Amsoil Signature series.
Re: fumoto oil valve [Re: Santo] #4791590
06/19/18 10:31 PM
06/19/18 10:31 PM
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Posts: 1,296
California
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California
These Fumoto threads are usually very predictable in the responses but if the best you can offer is something about "a solution waiting for a problem" or it's not hard to turn a wrench...you just don't get it...and it's as simple as that.

Common sense will tell you if you have a location that might be vulnerable and it's up to you if you feel comfortable in using the valve. I'm not saying I'm questioning Santo's experience, but I know in the years I've used them it would be an odd rock indeed that that would break the locking clip and have that raise the lever and slot it left to open the valve.

This again brings up the idea of actual exposure as I've used these valves in locations that are partially enclosed, and if something got up there it would more likely take the oil pan with it and not open a ball valve whose normal position is locked.

I began using Fumotos because my particular application was a recessed rear-facing plug whose location was difficult and a bit dangerous. But since it's not that hard to turn a wrench, I guess I should have spent another 30 minutes effing with it while endangering myself. I do know one thing...these ball valves are only a solution waiting for a problem in the blanket statement BITOG world that doesn't try too hard to make sense of others situations that they apparently can't fathom.

Re: fumoto oil valve [Re: Santo] #4791614
06/20/18 12:14 AM
06/20/18 12:14 AM
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A Highway Near You
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A Highway Near You
Breaks the clip, lifts the spring loaded lever straight up out of its lock slot, and rotates it 90 degrees against the friction of the valve internals.....I think a rock like that killed Kennedy.


HDEO in Diesel Engines. No spark plugs here.
Re: fumoto oil valve [Re: CT8] #4791646
06/20/18 04:16 AM
06/20/18 04:16 AM
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Posts: 30,985
NY
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NY
Originally Posted By: CT8
It is not that hard to turn a wrench.


Amen. In over 40 years of car ownership I've never owned a vehicle that I felt needed one. Some people claim they're great, others claim they have a vehicle that needed one for whatever reason, then by all means go for it. I consider myself fortunate that all I need to do is turn a wrench. I recall my son buying a used car with a Fomoto valve, it went in the garbage the first time I changed the oil for him. I was also surprised how much additional oil came out after removing it from the oil pan.


God Bless Our Troops

Re: fumoto oil valve [Re: PiperOne] #4791672
06/20/18 05:21 AM
06/20/18 05:21 AM
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Sunny Florida
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Sunny Florida
Originally Posted By: PiperOne
Breaks the clip, lifts the spring loaded lever straight up out of its lock slot, and rotates it 90 degrees against the friction of the valve internals.....I think a rock like that killed Kennedy.


Likewise. While we only have Fumoto's on two vehicles anymore they simply do not open easily or break often!


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The excitement mounts! ! [Re: SteveSRT8] #4791684
06/20/18 05:53 AM
06/20/18 05:53 AM
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Champlain/Hudson Valley
Kira Offline
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Champlain/Hudson Valley
I'm still in my neighbor's OCI with the Fumoto installed. I can't wait to see it work.

His case involved pan threads damaged by the $20 oil change meth-heads at a car wash. And yes, I do pick on those meth-heads rather predictably.

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