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When Did Riding Mowers Stop Using Rope Start #4786039
06/13/18 04:47 PM
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I have a a Murray riding mower I got second hand that has both key/battery start and rope start. The battery died about 10 years ago so I just use the rope start .. does require some odd body contortions since I have to reach forward with leg/arm to extend left leg to hold down clutch and grab rope, but also lean back far enough to keep enough weight on seat so as not to trigger the safety mechanism that kills engine if no weight on seat. Was just wondering when manufacturers got rid of rope start option since I never see them anymore

Re: When Did Riding Mowers Stop Using Rope Start [Re: scrier] #4786046
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Now I think about it, I never even noticed.


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Re: When Did Riding Mowers Stop Using Rope Start [Re: scrier] #4786049
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I think the rear engine mowers had pull start into the 1980's.



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Re: When Did Riding Mowers Stop Using Rope Start [Re: scrier] #4786055
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My Dads triple reel Toro Professional had an 11 HP Wisconsin with a pull start!


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Re: When Did Riding Mowers Stop Using Rope Start [Re: scrier] #4786098
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My gosh-doing away with rope starts and using new fangled contraptions.

This must be BITOG...........

Re: When Did Riding Mowers Stop Using Rope Start [Re: scrier] #4786146
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I would guess they strayed away from rope starts in the 60's.


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Re: When Did Riding Mowers Stop Using Rope Start [Re: scrier] #4786152
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Originally Posted By: scrier
I have a a Murray riding mower I got second hand that has both key/battery start and rope start. The battery died about 10 years ago so I just use the rope start .. does require some odd body contortions since I have to reach forward with leg/arm to extend left leg to hold down clutch and grab rope, but also lean back far enough to keep enough weight on seat so as not to trigger the safety mechanism that kills engine if no weight on seat. Was just wondering when manufacturers got rid of rope start option since I never see them anymore


If you have the gear shift in neutral and the parking brake set, you should be able to start it from standing behind the mower.


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Re: When Did Riding Mowers Stop Using Rope Start [Re: Vern_in_IL] #4786153
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Originally Posted By: Vern_in_IL
I think the rear engine mowers had pull start into the 1980's.




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Re: When Did Riding Mowers Stop Using Rope Start [Re: scrier] #4786171
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Sadly, they have disappeared from ATVs too.


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Re: When Did Riding Mowers Stop Using Rope Start [Re: scrier] #4786177
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Re: When Did Riding Mowers Stop Using Rope Start [Re: Mantooth] #4786237
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My 05 Arctic Cat w/a Kawasaki 650cc Twin has a pull start as back up.


Originally Posted By: Mantooth
Sadly, they have disappeared from ATVs too.

Re: When Did Riding Mowers Stop Using Rope Start [Re: scrier] #4786253
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My 2014 Snapper 28" has both electric and rope start.


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Re: When Did Riding Mowers Stop Using Rope Start [Re: Ursatdx] #4786254
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Originally Posted By: Ursatdx
My 05 Arctic Cat w/a Kawasaki 650cc Twin has a pull start as back up.


Originally Posted By: Mantooth
Sadly, they have disappeared from ATVs too.


Honda’s still have them even the rincon. I have used the one on my rincon and it is a pain in the butt. The battery has to have enough charge to run the fuel pump other wise it will never start with the pull rope.


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Re: When Did Riding Mowers Stop Using Rope Start [Re: jhellwig] #4786272
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Originally Posted By: jhellwig
Originally Posted By: Ursatdx
My 05 Arctic Cat w/a Kawasaki 650cc Twin has a pull start as back up.


Originally Posted By: Mantooth
Sadly, they have disappeared from ATVs too.


Honda’s still have them even the rincon. I have used the one on my rincon and it is a pain in the butt. The battery has to have enough charge to run the fuel pump other wise it will never start with the pull rope.


My 2003 Honda Foreman has a pull start but my 2013 Honda Rancher does not. I visit my local dealer about every other month to chat with the sales people and I have noticed newer models don't come from the factory with recoil starters. Add-on kits are available but I'm guessing Honda slashed them for cost-cutting measures.

Edit: Just looked at Honda's website and the Rincon does come with a recoil starter. It is an option on the Rancher and Foreman.

Last edited by Mantooth; 06/13/18 09:55 PM.

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Re: When Did Riding Mowers Stop Using Rope Start [Re: scrier] #4786306
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I have a grizzly 660 and it has a backup rope start, however I have never been able to pull it past one or two compression strokes, and never fast enough to start it.

If I was stuck in the woods it might motivate me to pull harder, but that engine is a thumper. It's just too big for a rope start.

I want to say I seen a rider with a rope start 10 years ago, but I could be wrong.

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