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#4785955 - 06/13/18 02:54 PM Oil filters for outdoor power equipment
SVTCobra Offline

Registered: 12/11/09
Posts: 701
Loc: Battle Creek, MI
Recently bought a new zero turn mower with the Kawasaki FR730V motor. Changed the oil and filter with less than 10 hours on it. Not wanting to pay the $10 plus dollars for the OEM filter or even an aftermarket filter in that exact size (Kawasaki 49065) I did a quick search and Fram 3614 was a suitable replacement. I put that on but prefer to run WIX filters and today did some more research to decipher the beta ratio numbers on their website and if the filter I was using was indeed correct and not just following what other people do.

It really makes me wonder why certain filters are even used when better filters (at least by the filtering capability) are more available and cheaper. Here is what I found.

Wix 57035 is the direct replacement for the OEM filter and is $6.85 on RockAuto. Wix 51348 is the cross reference to Fram 3614 and is $4.26.

OEM Specs
Gasket OD 2.75"
Height - 2.375"
Micron 25/30 (This was from a parts website and couldn't find anything from Kawasaki's website)

Wix 57035
Gasket OD 2.734"
Height - 2.305"
Beta Ratio - 2/20=20/41
Relief pressure 8 psi

Wix 51348
Gasket OD 2.734"
Height - 3.404"
Beta Ratio - 2/20=6/20
Relief pressure 8-11 psi

Found a review on Amazon of all places explaining the beta ratio numbers - 2/20 is plugged into this formula twice. 1-1/x

1-1/2 = 50% and 1-1/20 = 95%. The second set of numbers is the micron size of the particle trapped at that percentage. So in this case of the Wix 51348 50% of 6 micron particles are trapped and 95% of 20 micron particles are trapped.

OEM is then 50% of 25 micron particles and 95% of 30 micron particles are trapped (if the 2/20 is the same)
Wix 57035 is 50% of 20 micron and 95% of 41 micron particles are trapped
Wix 51348 is 50% of 6 micron and 95% of 20 micron particles are trapped

If you are still reading am I missing something that the car filter, Wix 51348, fits, has the same bypass pressure, filters better, has more filtering media and is cheaper? Unless there are some applications that don't allow space for longer filters why even use the 57035? Is it constructed better?
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#4785973 - 06/13/18 03:26 PM Re: Oil filters for outdoor power equipment [Re: SVTCobra]
smithph Offline

Registered: 02/07/08
Posts: 383
Loc: USA
Here is a link to Bill Kapaun's list that he started over 10 years ago, it is toward the bottom of the thread. I think the MC FL793 has largely been replaced with the FL910s
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#4786006 - 06/13/18 04:05 PM Re: Oil filters for outdoor power equipment [Re: SVTCobra]
mrsilv04 Offline

Registered: 12/08/06
Posts: 8275
Loc: Illinois
You're overthinking it. Pick a filter and go with it. I have over 3,000 hours on a Kawasaki FD620V. I change the oil and filter every 100-125 hours with Rotella 10w-30.

What filters have I used over the past 15 years? Mainly 3 models of filter, and nothing over $4. W*M SuperTech, NAPA ProSelect, or O'Reilly MicroGard.

At various time through history, those filters have all been the same entry-level filter, sourced from Wix.
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#4786037 - 06/13/18 04:41 PM Re: Oil filters for outdoor power equipment [Re: SVTCobra]
Happy Birthday Zee09 Offline

Registered: 05/05/18
Posts: 319
Loc: Tri State Conservative
FL910s is good for a few hundred hours and cheap with no shipping fees.
Plus has the Silicone adbv.
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#4786053 - 06/13/18 05:06 PM Re: Oil filters for outdoor power equipment [Re: SVTCobra]
goodtimes Offline

Registered: 12/08/10
Posts: 2865
Loc: california
You could cut the OE filter open to see how dirty it is and the construction.

#4786062 - 06/13/18 05:18 PM Re: Oil filters for outdoor power equipment [Re: SVTCobra]
mattwithcats Offline

Registered: 06/13/13
Posts: 1662
Loc: Virginia
Take a look at a Wix 51516 or Wix XP 51516...

$3.72 for 51348

$3.67 for 51516

Edited by mattwithcats (06/13/18 05:22 PM)
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#4786067 - 06/13/18 05:23 PM Re: Oil filters for outdoor power equipment [Re: SVTCobra]
krismoriah72 Offline

Registered: 02/16/09
Posts: 1521
Loc: wv
Here is a thread with the same question from a few yrs ago.

#4786100 - 06/13/18 06:05 PM Re: Oil filters for outdoor power equipment [Re: Zee09]
tig1 Offline

Registered: 01/03/09
Posts: 13661
Loc: Illinois
Originally Posted By: Zee09
FL910s is good for a few hundred hours and cheap with no shipping fees.
Plus has the Silicone adbv.

I also use the MC FL910 on my Craftsman riding mower.
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#4786136 - 06/13/18 06:44 PM Re: Oil filters for outdoor power equipment [Re: SVTCobra]
NormanBuntz Offline

Registered: 07/27/13
Posts: 2134
Loc: Outer Banks, NC
Baldwin Filters has an excellent application tool if you want to try that. Baldwin filters are available at Zoro Tools and other online sellers. I've used them for my Snapper 24 HP (Briggs), a Kawasaki 19 HP on a Wight ZTR and a Generac GT-990 twin on a standby generator. Solme complain about Baldwin quality since the company was sold, but I haven't seen the evidence.
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#4786291 - 06/13/18 10:21 PM Re: Oil filters for outdoor power equipment [Re: SVTCobra]
blupupher Offline

Registered: 08/27/04
Posts: 4429
Loc: Katy, Republic of Texas
Not that I currently have any, but if I ever do get any OPE that requires an oil filter, I plan on getting a Fram Ultra/Wix Platinum and never changing the filter again.

There have been several examples posted of Ultra's being used for 200+ hours still looking almost brand new.
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#4786672 - 06/14/18 12:48 PM Re: Oil filters for outdoor power equipment [Re: SVTCobra]
FastLane Offline

Registered: 12/10/14
Posts: 449
Loc: MB - Manitoba
Why not Fram PH7575? Thats what I use on my JD STX38. 7575 is meant for a small engine. The 3614 is meant for a car.
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#4786681 - 06/14/18 01:06 PM Re: Oil filters for outdoor power equipment [Re: SVTCobra]
Rat407 Online   content

Registered: 12/13/02
Posts: 1438
Loc: North Carolina
On my 2002 model year ExMark Lazer Z HP with the 21hp Kawasaki I run an Ea15k09. I only have 550hrs on the mower so far Change the oil and filter at the end of every cutting season.

Edited by Rat407 (06/14/18 01:07 PM)
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#4787080 - 06/14/18 10:04 PM Re: Oil filters for outdoor power equipment [Re: SVTCobra]
MParr Offline

Registered: 10/28/17
Posts: 515
Loc: Georgia
I’m using a Fram Ultra XG4967 on my Toro. I’ll probably continue to use the FU or a WIX/NAPA filter. You can’t go wrong with either. Plus they are cheaper than the Toro OE filters.
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