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Right oil for a 1.2 TSI #4785598
06/13/18 08:22 AM
06/13/18 08:22 AM
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Portugal
Filipelol Offline OP
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Hello everyone, this will be my first post here and I'm looking for recommendations for the right oil for my car, I'll try to provide as much details as I can and convert all the units to Imperial.

First details about where I'm from, I live on an island of the coast of Portugal, it is very humid and temperatures all year round range from 50F to 86F, very rarely below or above that, sulfur in our gas "should" be less than 10ppm but I wouldn't count on that, and choice between different oils is a little limited but I'll get to that.

As for my car it was bought second hand and is my first car, a 2011 Skoda Fabia 1.2 TSI 8v with 86hp.

I got the car with 33 000 miles and later had it serviced with Castrol Edge 5w30 LL VW 504, the car burned some oil but never really measured it, my last service was at 44 000 miles and because of the oil burning and the fact I have fixed servicing, I put in Castrol Edge 5w40 TurboDiesel VW 502 and up until now, 3700 miles later, the car has burned around 1 to 1.2 quarts of oil, and smells a little like gas.

My car has a very simple crankcase ventilation system where it vent directly to the turbo, and due to the blow-by and oil in my intake, I've routed the ventilation to the ground and sealed the turbo, hoping to get a catch can later.

On to the oil, from what I've read from a few topics here, the Castrol edge 5w40 turbo diesel is not really praised here.. and I want to stick with 502 since I'm not sure about my gas quality and I'm sticking to regular oil changes.

What would help me more with the oil burning, a ACEA C3 oil or a A3/B4?

Castrol 0w40 and mobil 1 fs 0w40 aren't available where I'm from and the only option is to order them from amazon, I'll say a few prices to possible help with the decision, my car takes 3.5 Qt.

Mobil 1 FS 0W40 - around 9.5$ per Qt
Castrol Edge 0W40 - around 10.50$ per Qt
Castrol Edge 5W40 Turbo Diesel - around 8.2$ per Qt
Motul 5W40 502 Specific - around 8% per Qt
Motul 5W40 X-Cess - around 7.3$ per Qt
Motul 5W40 X-Clean - around 7.8$ per Qt
Total Quartz 9000 5w40 - around 5$ per Qt
Shell Helix Ultra 5w40 - around 6.5$ per Qt

All these are amazon prices so they may shift, and shipping cost too.

I'll try to answer any questions you might have as best as I can.

I hope this post is not too confusing and the English not too broken, thank you in advanced for any input! grin

Re: Right oil for a 1.2 TSI [Re: Filipelol] #4785633
06/13/18 08:56 AM
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What does the owners manual recommend?


2015 F150 2.7
2018 F350 6.2
Re: Right oil for a 1.2 TSI [Re: CT8] #4785652
06/13/18 09:07 AM
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Filipelol Offline OP
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Just asks for VW 502 if on fixed servicing.

Re: Right oil for a 1.2 TSI [Re: Filipelol] #4785860
06/13/18 12:41 PM
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you don't have a front PCV where the diaphragm will tear from time to time? This goes to the intake manifold.

Oil choices?

Get what is easily available to you.


2016 VW Tiguan|APR Stage 1|Neuspeed P-Flo|Osram CBI|Redline 5w30
Re: Right oil for a 1.2 TSI [Re: UG_Passat] #4785867
06/13/18 12:50 PM
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Filipelol Offline OP
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No, my engine is different from the 2.0 TSI, just has a one way valve that allows the crankcase vapors to go directly to the turbo.

So a ACEA C3 or A3/B4 wont matter?

Re: Right oil for a 1.2 TSI [Re: Filipelol] #4785871
06/13/18 12:53 PM
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I guess I don't understand why if it wants a 502 00 oil you don't just use a 502 00 oil?


1994 BMW 530i, 242K
1996 Honda Accord, 275K
1999 Toyota Sienna, 413K
2000 Toyota ECHO, 281K
Re: Right oil for a 1.2 TSI [Re: Filipelol] #4785915
06/13/18 01:38 PM
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Just use a A3/B4 oil that have 502.00 and 505.00 on it smile theres plenty available


‘01 Peugeot Partner 1.9 D, 5W40 A3/B4, 258000 Km, running on WVO
Wife's ‘01 Toyota RAV4 3-dr 2.0 VVTi, 5W40 A3/B4, 148000 Km
Re: Right oil for a 1.2 TSI [Re: kschachn] #4785940
06/13/18 02:21 PM
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Filipelol Offline OP
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Theres plenty of 502 to choose from, just wanted to find out which ones would fit my car the best, also considering it burns some oil.

Re: Right oil for a 1.2 TSI [Re: Filipelol] #4785942
06/13/18 02:25 PM
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Originally Posted By: Filipelol
Theres plenty of 502 to choose from, just wanted to find out which ones would fit my car the best, also considering it burns some oil.

According to your list the Total Quartz is the cheapest and it does have 502 00 approval. That seems like the winner then.


1994 BMW 530i, 242K
1996 Honda Accord, 275K
1999 Toyota Sienna, 413K
2000 Toyota ECHO, 281K
Re: Right oil for a 1.2 TSI [Re: Filipelol] #4786024
06/13/18 04:30 PM
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SHU 5w40...its GTL based


2008 Toyota Yaris 1ND-TV 1.4 D4-D Elf FullTech FE 5w30
1997 Toyota Landcruiser KZJ95 3.0 TD Shell Rimula R6M 10w40
Re: Right oil for a 1.2 TSI [Re: Kamele0N] #4786069
06/13/18 05:24 PM
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Filipelol Offline OP
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So SHU is group III+ and all the others are group III? I was under the impression Motul was a group IV base.

Re: Right oil for a 1.2 TSI [Re: Filipelol] #4786109
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Not the X-cess at least, or there's barely some gr 4 in it.
Actually the 5W40 X-Cess and the 5W40 Total Quartz 9000 Energy (energy is important) are pretty similar. The Total being a full group III.

Motul likes to surf on the full synth Gr 4/5 reputation...maybe in the past, maybe the 300V line, but the rest ?

If I were OP, I'd stay with SHU or the Total (energy version)...or the oil with the best NOACK


96 Barchetta, 300V 5W40 | Forfour 95, SHU 0W40
Mazda 6 2.3, M1 AFE 0W20 | Colt Ralliart, 300V 0W40
Re: Right oil for a 1.2 TSI [Re: Filipelol] #4791164
06/19/18 02:36 PM
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Originally Posted By: Filipelol
So SHU is group III+ and all the others are group III? I was under the impression Motul was a group IV base.


https://pt.cepsa.com/cepsaPt/O_Que_Ofere...TAR_5W40_505_01

That Cepsa Oil would be easy to find in Portugal. I think similar to Total.

I like the Mobil 1 FS 0w40 and Shell if you want to order something at Amazon

Re: Right oil for a 1.2 TSI [Re: Filipelol] #4792761
06/21/18 06:04 AM
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What do you guys think of these two oils ?

Repsol Elite Competicion 5w40
Datasheet: https://www.repsol.com/imagenes/global/en/rp_elite_competicion_5w40_en_tcm14-23558.pdf

Repsol Cosmos High Performance 0w40
Datasheet: https://www.repsol.pt/imagenes/repsolporpt/pt/RP_ELITE_COSMOS_HIGH_PERFORMANCE_0W40_tcm101-92147.pdf

Re: Right oil for a 1.2 TSI [Re: Filipelol] #4792763
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The 0W40 looks good, except that with a NOACK of 12 it won't pass the MB229.5 cert they are claiming (or not, I can't read the text, sorry).

I'd stay with a low NOACK oil...MB229.5 cert is a way to know it's under 10, which is good.


96 Barchetta, 300V 5W40 | Forfour 95, SHU 0W40
Mazda 6 2.3, M1 AFE 0W20 | Colt Ralliart, 300V 0W40
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