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#4785466 - 06/13/18 05:09 AM Mercedes Benz citric acid flush
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Registered: 09/30/13
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Loc: Indiana
TLDR: Many folks seem to have good luck with the stuff so I figured I could give it a try with my Blazer before replacing the heater core. Is this stuff something that should be ran for a week or just a few minutes like other flush products? Thanks.

Additional info: My main issue is that I know the system wasn't properly flushed for the transition from Dexcool to traditional green and that it takes forever to get to temperature. (For example, 15*F is horrible.. It takes forever with the heat off and about 7 miles with the heat on.) The thermostat is a NAPA (US made) 195*F. I also want the system clean before going through the hassle of replacing the heater core. I have replaced the coolant twice since ownership and performed 1 garden hose flush. Currently using ST traditional green.


Edited by dlundblad (06/13/18 05:10 AM)
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#4785469 - 06/13/18 05:18 AM Re: Mercedes Benz citric acid flush [Re: dlundblad]
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It should be run ~10 minutes. Here is a tutorial with many pictures:

http://dieselgiant.com/mercedes_citrus_flush.htm

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#4785482 - 06/13/18 05:43 AM Re: Mercedes Benz citric acid flush [Re: dlundblad]
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First of all don't waste your money on the MB stuff, its a ripoff, get this, double the amount for half the price with free shipping. Same product and just as effective.

https://www.amazon.com/Citric-Acid-Powde...VAHD7CBND3PWDQA

Usually 1lb dissolved in 5 qts of warm water is about right. Remove the thermostat and replace the housing then fill the solution in. Top off with warm water and run it for 10-15 min then flush it out.
Its easy to flush with the thermostat out.
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#4785498 - 06/13/18 06:27 AM Re: Mercedes Benz citric acid flush [Re: Trav]
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Originally Posted By: Trav
First of all don't waste your money on the MB stuff, its a ripoff, get this, double the amount for half the price with free shipping. Same product and just as effective.

https://www.amazon.com/Citric-Acid-Powde...VAHD7CBND3PWDQA

Usually 1lb dissolved in 5 qts of warm water is about right. Remove the thermostat and replace the housing then fill the solution in. Top off with warm water and run it for 10-15 min then flush it out.
Its easy to flush with the thermostat out.


Great tip; thanks!

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#4785593 - 06/13/18 08:17 AM Re: Mercedes Benz citric acid flush [Re: dlundblad]
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dlundblad,

Just a quick note; it seems the cooling system is really good on the S-series trucks. I had the same problem during the winter and the solution was to block off the grille at anything below 20*. It would get stone cold going down the mountain with no throttle input before. Something to think about if the flush doesn't change anything
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#4785716 - 06/13/18 10:15 AM Re: Mercedes Benz citric acid flush [Re: dlundblad]
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The other thing is to use a marine stainless steel thermostat. No competition with surrounding aluminum surfaces. A thin film of Black Super RTV around the edge of the T-Stat when you set it in place will help block any side leakage.

But yeah, in cold country, you need to block the radiator too. Plenty of surface area on the block and sump to "leak" heat away ...
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#4785718 - 06/13/18 10:16 AM Re: Mercedes Benz citric acid flush [Re: Trav]
dlundblad Offline


Registered: 09/30/13
Posts: 10336
Loc: Indiana
Originally Posted By: Trav
First of all don't waste your money on the MB stuff, its a ripoff, get this, double the amount for half the price with free shipping. Same product and just as effective.

https://www.amazon.com/Citric-Acid-Powde...VAHD7CBND3PWDQA

Usually 1lb dissolved in 5 qts of warm water is about right. Remove the thermostat and replace the housing then fill the solution in. Top off with warm water and run it for 10-15 min then flush it out.
Its easy to flush with the thermostat out.


Do you recommend dumping the existing coolant and refilling with water or is the citric flush okay with the coolant?

Not sure how big my system is, but I'll probably use 2 lbs. (10+ quarts)
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#4785897 - 06/13/18 01:18 PM Re: Mercedes Benz citric acid flush [Re: dlundblad]
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According to MB the citric acid flush is to be proceeded by a coolant drain and a flush with a detergent to remove any oil present.
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#4785913 - 06/13/18 01:36 PM Re: Mercedes Benz citric acid flush [Re: dlundblad]
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So question about the linked procedure. I am assuming if you are replacing hoses, to do the R&R on them after the citric acid was drained?
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#4785986 - 06/13/18 03:39 PM Re: Mercedes Benz citric acid flush [Re: dlundblad]
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Rubber hoses are highly acid resistant so it shouldn't matter. I'd replace them as I took the old ones off during the initial flush.
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#4786027 - 06/13/18 04:32 PM Re: Mercedes Benz citric acid flush [Re: dlundblad]
Trav Offline


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Originally Posted By: dlundblad
Originally Posted By: Trav
First of all don't waste your money on the MB stuff, its a ripoff, get this, double the amount for half the price with free shipping. Same product and just as effective.

https://www.amazon.com/Citric-Acid-Powde...VAHD7CBND3PWDQA

Usually 1lb dissolved in 5 qts of warm water is about right. Remove the thermostat and replace the housing then fill the solution in. Top off with warm water and run it for 10-15 min then flush it out.
Its easy to flush with the thermostat out.


Do you recommend dumping the existing coolant and refilling with water or is the citric flush okay with the coolant?

Not sure how big my system is, but I'll probably use 2 lbs. (10+ quarts)


Flush it through with fresh water first with the thermostat out, a garden hose is okay. For a 10qt system 2lb is correct.
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#4786380 - 06/14/18 04:54 AM Re: Mercedes Benz citric acid flush [Re: dlundblad]
dlundblad Offline


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Loc: Indiana
Thanks everyone.

My plan is to undo the lines and rinse the system and core with the initial garden hose flush, but the old heater core will be bypassed during the citric flush. It's coming out so there's no need to waste the chemical. The original rinse is just so it doesn't pee coolant everywhere on it's way to the recycling can... Lol
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#4786381 - 06/14/18 04:54 AM Re: Mercedes Benz citric acid flush [Re: Trav]
dlundblad Offline


Registered: 09/30/13
Posts: 10336
Loc: Indiana
Originally Posted By: Trav
First of all don't waste your money on the MB stuff, its a ripoff, get this, double the amount for half the price with free shipping. Same product and just as effective.

https://www.amazon.com/Citric-Acid-Powde...VAHD7CBND3PWDQA

Usually 1lb dissolved in 5 qts of warm water is about right. Remove the thermostat and replace the housing then fill the solution in. Top off with warm water and run it for 10-15 min then flush it out.
Its easy to flush with the thermostat out.


I plan on getting this too. She has Prime so it works out nicely. Thanks again.
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#4797395 - 06/25/18 06:14 PM Re: Mercedes Benz citric acid flush [Re: dlundblad]
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Loc: Central Texas
I've found citric acid at a local grocery store. Beer/wine brew shops probably also stock it as well.
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#4800296 - 06/29/18 06:05 AM Re: Mercedes Benz citric acid flush [Re: bdcardinal]
Trav Offline


Registered: 11/20/06
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Loc: MA, Mittelfranken.de
Originally Posted By: bdcardinal
So question about the linked procedure. I am assuming if you are replacing hoses, to do the R&R on them after the citric acid was drained?


That's the way I would do it, no point in running possibly grungy old water through them if you don't have to but it probably doesn't matter one way or the other.
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