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What!? You change your own oil?? #4785323
06/12/18 09:05 PM
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I was having a conversation with one of the MB service writers at one of the area dealers and asked about the cost of “Service A” and what it entails (I can see it coming due in the dash monitor). Basically, it is an oil and filter change and various checks, but nothing major for the low cost of $300.

Then he said, but you have nothing to worry about until you hit 10,000 miles when the first Service A is due. Yeah, about that, I would never go 10K on factory fill in any car, much less a twin turbo. I changed the oil myself at 1,600 miles and again at 4,400 to remove all of the break-in metals.

What!? You changed the oil yourself?

Oh, the horror! I said, it is not rocket science dude, what is the big deal?

I have never heard of any MB owner changing their own oil.

I just shook my head and thanked him for his time.

So fellow Euro car owners, what is the big deal? Why the surprise? I see no problem changing my own oil and saving about $265 per OC.

What do you guys do?


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Re: What!? You change your own oil?? [Re: 2015_PSD] #4785326
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Changing oil, for me, is a religious experience.


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Re: What!? You change your own oil?? [Re: 2015_PSD] #4785333
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Originally Posted By: 2015_PSD
So fellow Euro car owners, what is the big deal? Why the surprise? I see no problem changing my own oil and saving about $265 per OC.
Yup. When wife had her '08 C300, I would do most of the oil changes on it. It was super easy with an extractor and filter up top. I do the same with my old 530i as well.

The Q5 goes to the dealer for oil changes because we have AudiCare.


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Re: What!? You change your own oil?? [Re: 2015_PSD] #4785334
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back in 2007 I was dating this girl and she got a 2000 ML320. It was due for one of the services and cost almost $400 or $500. when I got the paper work it seems they basically changed the oil and tested the battery. After that I told her to take it to my indy who changed $99 I think. I don't know why I didn't change it. I changed my own oil in my 420sel at the time. The dealer was right about the battery though. It tested bad and went kaput not long after.


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Re: What!? You change your own oil?? [Re: 2015_PSD] #4785335
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You should have zipped your lip, accepted the Mercedes branded cup of Kool-Aid with a smile and tossed it over your shoulder when he looked away.

They needn't know about the early OCIs.


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Re: What!? You change your own oil?? [Re: 2015_PSD] #4785336
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My neighbor can't believe I hand wash the car, somehow he hasn't caught me changing oil yet.


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Re: What!? You change your own oil?? [Re: maxdustington] #4785337
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Originally Posted By: maxdustington
You should have zipped your lip, accepted the Mercedes branded cup of Kool-Aid with a smile and tossed it over your shoulder when he looked away.

They needn't know about the early OCIs.
They still do not know; not my dealer, did not mention my name, and was not in either MB. wink


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Re: What!? You change your own oil?? [Re: 2015_PSD] #4785338
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I do my own work and always have.

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Re: What!? You change your own oil?? [Re: 2015_PSD] #4785343
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Service writers aren't hired because they relate to people who change their own oil, not even at a Kia or Mitsubishi dealer. He was surprised because most people want to know where their loaner is, or want him to hurry up so they can go to the Edgar's bakery or whatever.


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Re: What!? You change your own oil?? [Re: 2015_PSD] #4785358
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$300 for an A service?!?! I would violate the HOA rules in my complex and topside the oil change on my '09 C300 to avoid a $300 A service. The dealers in Atlanta run A service at $129 and independents that are a bit more of a drive you can get them as low as $99 but not worth the drive 1-1.5 hour round trip drive to save $30.


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Re: What!? You change your own oil?? [Re: 2015_PSD] #4785369
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Question. Wouldn't your oil filter catch the break-in metal slivers anyway?


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Re: What!? You change your own oil?? [Re: cheesepuffs] #4785371
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Originally Posted By: cheesepuffs
Question. Wouldn't your oil filter catch the break-in metal slivers anyway?
Apparently not all of them based upon the pearlescent shimmer in the oil when swirled in the sunlight. Both cars did this, so not a fluke, but not sure how relevant it is.


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Re: What!? You change your own oil?? [Re: 2015_PSD] #4785376
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I think its funny the absolute disdain the service guys have for owners who do their own work. Doesn't bother me, I sell parts to both. Plus if the customer isn't a complete jerk I will print out the section of the shop manual for them.


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Re: What!? You change your own oil?? [Re: 2015_PSD] #4785387
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Truth is 99% of owners of $75K cars aren't changing their own oil. That percentage is likely much different on BITOG. Heck, 99% of all owners probably...does 1 in 100 change their oil??


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Re: What!? You change your own oil?? [Re: 2015_PSD] #4785397
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2015_PSD it's your vehicle. CHange the oil whenever it pleases you sir!

I'm old school. Pop taught me how to change oil around 12. I know a handful of Millenials and none of them change their own oil. Nor do they want to learn. They prefer to let someone else get their hands dirty. I'm sure there are a bunch of exceptions. I hope!

We live in a time of a disposable economy. Nothing is made to last. Unless you make it yourself.

Respectfully,

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