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FRAM Ultra 6607 or 7317? #4784687
06/12/18 08:06 AM
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Char Baby Offline OP
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Only when using FRAM oil filters, the '15 Altima 2.5 SV in my signature calls for Fram(any FRAM)#6607 which is on the small side as many of you know. OTOH, other filter Mfg's call for their larger(if we can call is larger) filter which would be the equivalent of the Fram #7317.

Can/should I use the #7317?
Should I not use the #7317?

I've been using other brand filters which as stated above, and these filters are their larger/required filter in the filter guide. I use these filters(oh, lets say Puro ONE) for at least 2 OCI's and sometimes 3 but, no more than ~ 12K miles

Any opinions?


"Retired"
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'80 Firebird FORMULA V8/4bbl-purchased "NEW"
'15 Nissan Altima 2.5 SV
'15 Honda Civic LX
Re: FRAM Ultra 6607 or 7317? [Re: Char Baby] #4784690
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If the 7317 fits there's no real good reason not to use one.

Re: FRAM Ultra 6607 or 7317? [Re: Char Baby] #4784695
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Use the 7317. Same specs, but ~3/4" longer, more media area. Never understood why Nissan specs the shorty 6607 when I've not seen an application where the 7317 wouldn't fit. That includes 2017 Rogue 2.5L which I recently did oil and filter change on and used the Napa Gold equivalent of the 7317, the 7356.

One thing I don't understand is why different aftermarket makers are calling for different filters. If the 2015 Altima calls for the 6607 application, all manufacturers should list the same.

As for using two/three ocis, FU up to the task.

Re: FRAM Ultra 6607 or 7317? [Re: Char Baby] #4784704
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Doesn't the Honda filter fit? It is larger...

Re: FRAM Ultra 6607 or 7317? [Re: Char Baby] #4784710
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I have used the 7317 on my 06 Altima exclusively. As my wife has a Civic it simplifies buying filters.

Re: FRAM Ultra 6607 or 7317? [Re: Char Baby] #4784733
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Larger=better XG7317 for 20,000 miles

Re: FRAM Ultra 6607 or 7317? [Re: Char Baby] #4784740
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I've used the 7317-equivalent on my Q50. Slightly longer, but gasket, thread and bypass are the same as the 6607.

There is no harm in using the 7317. FRAM Ultra will easily do much more than 12k miles.


2015 Infiniti Q50
VAS 5W-30 + FRAM PH6607

2015 Nissan Murano
Mobil1 AFE 0W-20 + FRAM XG6607
Re: FRAM Ultra 6607 or 7317? [Re: Char Baby] #4784752
06/12/18 09:14 AM
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I use the 7317 version quite often my friend. It has the same bypass psi and the same gasket size. Funny but true deal is Nissan used to spec the longer filter for the generation of Nissan's prior to the 07-2012. And the battery size used to be the 24f version too... Then changed it to the group 35 version which is smaller as well.

Right now I have the shorter version on my car because that's all Premium Guard makes for it through Federated Auto. But I have always liked the longer one better. Fram Ultra can run an exceptionally long time. We have had people on here run them for 24k miles. And those filters still looked good.


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Mobil Super 5w30 Wix 57356
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Re: FRAM Ultra 6607 or 7317? [Re: Char Baby] #4784783
06/12/18 10:05 AM
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XG7317 will be fine, I also run one on my G37 Coupe - works perfectly, just need to add just a tad more oil to account for the extra filtering media. Cheers

Re: FRAM Ultra 6607 or 7317? [Re: Char Baby] #4784793
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Char Baby Offline OP
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7317 IT IS!
Thanks everyone. smile

CB


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'80 Firebird FORMULA V8/4bbl-purchased "NEW"
'15 Nissan Altima 2.5 SV
'15 Honda Civic LX
Re: FRAM Ultra 6607 or 7317? [Re: Sayjac] #4784800
06/12/18 10:35 AM
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Originally Posted By: Sayjac
One thing I don't understand is why different aftermarket makers are calling for different filters. If the 2015 Altima calls for the 6607 application, all manufacturers should list the same.


I have a G35 with the VQ35HR engine and it uses a 6607 filter. I've checked multiple filter manufacturers and they all specify an almost identical (as far as dimensions) filter. WIX says 51358, K&N says HP1008, and so on. The "oversize" parts would be 57356 and HP1010.

I'd be very surprised if a manufacturer spec'd the oversize filter unless they didn't have the 'standard' size available.

Re: FRAM Ultra 6607 or 7317? [Re: Char Baby] #4784802
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Nissan is a much more vicious cost cutter than GM, the move to a 6607 = $$$.

Now quick lubes are using a filter that's a bit smaller than a 6607 for Honda/Nissan/Subaru applications.

Re: FRAM Ultra 6607 or 7317? [Re: hallstevenson] #4784840
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Originally Posted By: hallstevenson
...I'd be very surprised if a manufacturer spec'd the oversize filter unless they didn't have the 'standard' size available.

Me too. However the OP seemed to imply if not state some other manufacturers besides Fram spec another filter, the 7317. Thus mentioned for reference.

As noted, quick lubes, indies and some brands frequently downsize and consolidate the 7317 to the 6607. Never seen a spec'd upsize though.

When it comes the 6607 to 7317 and sae thread cousins 4967 to 4386, 'I' consider them a sensible upsize.

Re: FRAM Ultra 6607 or 7317? [Re: Char Baby] #4784847
06/12/18 11:29 AM
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The 3593A (Fram number) will fit as well.

My 2


There's no such thing as:
Too big of a battery,
Too large of a gas tank,
or too loud of a horn,
or too bright headlights.
Re: FRAM Ultra 6607 or 7317? [Re: Sayjac] #4784869
06/12/18 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted By: Sayjac
Me too. However the OP seemed to imply if not state some other manufacturers besides Fram spec another filter, the 7317. Thus mentioned for reference.


I actually have a cheat sheet (well, I use "Notes" on my iPhone) to keep track of alternate sizes from different brands. I can add Mobil filters to the list that do NOT list the oversize filter as "normal". I'm curious which filter manufacturers do. A Bosch D3300 is just over a 1/4" longer so I don't think that qualifies as oversized. STP specs an "S6607" and it's 1/8" shorter than the Fram 6607.

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