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#4784687 - 06/12/18 09:06 AM FRAM Ultra 6607 or 7317?
Char Baby Offline


Registered: 05/25/05
Posts: 10029
Loc: ROCHESTER, NY
Only when using FRAM oil filters, the '15 Altima 2.5 SV in my signature calls for Fram(any FRAM)#6607 which is on the small side as many of you know. OTOH, other filter Mfg's call for their larger(if we can call is larger) filter which would be the equivalent of the Fram #7317.

Can/should I use the #7317?
Should I not use the #7317?

I've been using other brand filters which as stated above, and these filters are their larger/required filter in the filter guide. I use these filters(oh, lets say Puro ONE) for at least 2 OCI's and sometimes 3 but, no more than ~ 12K miles

Any opinions?
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#4784690 - 06/12/18 09:14 AM Re: FRAM Ultra 6607 or 7317? [Re: Char Baby]
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Registered: 12/07/08
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Loc: Occupied Virginia
If the 7317 fits there's no real good reason not to use one.

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#4784695 - 06/12/18 09:19 AM Re: FRAM Ultra 6607 or 7317? [Re: Char Baby]
Sayjac Offline


Registered: 10/13/08
Posts: 12280
Loc: The Old North State
Use the 7317. Same specs, but ~3/4" longer, more media area. Never understood why Nissan specs the shorty 6607 when I've not seen an application where the 7317 wouldn't fit. That includes 2017 Rogue 2.5L which I recently did oil and filter change on and used the Napa Gold equivalent of the 7317, the 7356.

One thing I don't understand is why different aftermarket makers are calling for different filters. If the 2015 Altima calls for the 6607 application, all manufacturers should list the same.

As for using two/three ocis, FU up to the task.

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#4784704 - 06/12/18 09:28 AM Re: FRAM Ultra 6607 or 7317? [Re: Char Baby]
JeffKeryk Offline


Registered: 01/09/10
Posts: 263
Loc: Los Gatos, CA
Doesn't the Honda filter fit? It is larger...

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#4784710 - 06/12/18 09:30 AM Re: FRAM Ultra 6607 or 7317? [Re: Char Baby]
judsonj Offline


Registered: 04/06/12
Posts: 50
Loc: nh
I have used the 7317 on my 06 Altima exclusively. As my wife has a Civic it simplifies buying filters.

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#4784733 - 06/12/18 09:57 AM Re: FRAM Ultra 6607 or 7317? [Re: Char Baby]
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Registered: 06/13/16
Posts: 2571
Loc: MN
Larger=better XG7317 for 20,000 miles

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#4784740 - 06/12/18 10:03 AM Re: FRAM Ultra 6607 or 7317? [Re: Char Baby]
sir1900 Offline


Registered: 03/12/09
Posts: 1589
Loc: Regina, Saskatchewan
I've used the 7317-equivalent on my Q50. Slightly longer, but gasket, thread and bypass are the same as the 6607.

There is no harm in using the 7317. FRAM Ultra will easily do much more than 12k miles.
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#4784752 - 06/12/18 10:14 AM Re: FRAM Ultra 6607 or 7317? [Re: Char Baby]
bbhero Offline


Registered: 03/20/15
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I use the 7317 version quite often my friend. It has the same bypass psi and the same gasket size. Funny but true deal is Nissan used to spec the longer filter for the generation of Nissan's prior to the 07-2012. And the battery size used to be the 24f version too... Then changed it to the group 35 version which is smaller as well.

Right now I have the shorter version on my car because that's all Premium Guard makes for it through Federated Auto. But I have always liked the longer one better. Fram Ultra can run an exceptionally long time. We have had people on here run them for 24k miles. And those filters still looked good.
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#4784783 - 06/12/18 11:05 AM Re: FRAM Ultra 6607 or 7317? [Re: Char Baby]
Hiryuu Offline


Registered: 06/23/11
Posts: 9
Loc: Texas
XG7317 will be fine, I also run one on my G37 Coupe - works perfectly, just need to add just a tad more oil to account for the extra filtering media. Cheers

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#4784793 - 06/12/18 11:19 AM Re: FRAM Ultra 6607 or 7317? [Re: Char Baby]
Char Baby Offline


Registered: 05/25/05
Posts: 10029
Loc: ROCHESTER, NY
7317 IT IS!
Thanks everyone. smile

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#4784800 - 06/12/18 11:35 AM Re: FRAM Ultra 6607 or 7317? [Re: Sayjac]
hallstevenson Offline


Registered: 04/25/17
Posts: 340
Loc: Ohio
Originally Posted By: Sayjac
One thing I don't understand is why different aftermarket makers are calling for different filters. If the 2015 Altima calls for the 6607 application, all manufacturers should list the same.


I have a G35 with the VQ35HR engine and it uses a 6607 filter. I've checked multiple filter manufacturers and they all specify an almost identical (as far as dimensions) filter. WIX says 51358, K&N says HP1008, and so on. The "oversize" parts would be 57356 and HP1010.

I'd be very surprised if a manufacturer spec'd the oversize filter unless they didn't have the 'standard' size available.

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#4784802 - 06/12/18 11:36 AM Re: FRAM Ultra 6607 or 7317? [Re: Char Baby]
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Registered: 01/02/04
Posts: 3910
Loc: California
Nissan is a much more vicious cost cutter than GM, the move to a 6607 = $$$.

Now quick lubes are using a filter that's a bit smaller than a 6607 for Honda/Nissan/Subaru applications.

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#4784840 - 06/12/18 12:19 PM Re: FRAM Ultra 6607 or 7317? [Re: hallstevenson]
Sayjac Offline


Registered: 10/13/08
Posts: 12280
Loc: The Old North State
Originally Posted By: hallstevenson
...I'd be very surprised if a manufacturer spec'd the oversize filter unless they didn't have the 'standard' size available.

Me too. However the OP seemed to imply if not state some other manufacturers besides Fram spec another filter, the 7317. Thus mentioned for reference.

As noted, quick lubes, indies and some brands frequently downsize and consolidate the 7317 to the 6607. Never seen a spec'd upsize though.

When it comes the 6607 to 7317 and sae thread cousins 4967 to 4386, 'I' consider them a sensible upsize.

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#4784847 - 06/12/18 12:29 PM Re: FRAM Ultra 6607 or 7317? [Re: Char Baby]
dwendt44 Offline


Registered: 05/17/06
Posts: 3972
Loc: Central Wisconsin
The 3593A (Fram number) will fit as well.

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#4784869 - 06/12/18 12:56 PM Re: FRAM Ultra 6607 or 7317? [Re: Sayjac]
hallstevenson Offline


Registered: 04/25/17
Posts: 340
Loc: Ohio
Originally Posted By: Sayjac
Me too. However the OP seemed to imply if not state some other manufacturers besides Fram spec another filter, the 7317. Thus mentioned for reference.


I actually have a cheat sheet (well, I use "Notes" on my iPhone) to keep track of alternate sizes from different brands. I can add Mobil filters to the list that do NOT list the oversize filter as "normal". I'm curious which filter manufacturers do. A Bosch D3300 is just over a 1/4" longer so I don't think that qualifies as oversized. STP specs an "S6607" and it's 1/8" shorter than the Fram 6607.

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